06-27-2012, 15:14
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MSNBC Hints Military Might Have Wanted To Silence Tillman
Go on the link below and watch this POS, unfriggin' believable....
"[Pat] Tillman has become such a complicated symbol of sort of Rorschached that you can almost take anything you want in this great American who turns down of millions of dollars to go fight for his country and then he's like, 'Wait a minute. I don't like Afghanistan. I don't believe in the mission we're fighting for. But wait a minute, I'm going to continue to fight just the same as if I did believe in the mission,'" MSNBC's cultural critic Toure said on the network today.
"You know, I mean, for the Army to have the most high-profiled soldier come out of the Army and perhaps criticize the mission would have been devastating for the military. So it's not quite clear what happened, actually, in Afghanistan. I mean, just a very complicated situation. I can see how many people could try to take it in the wrong direction," Toure surmised on the new MSNBC program "The Cycle."
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/vid...ut_him_up.html
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06-27-2012, 15:37
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MSNBC = tabloid tv news
I expect nothing less from a 5th rate tabloid "news" media. Remember CNN and Tailwind......CNN never recovered from those lies.
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06-27-2012, 16:03
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What I got out of that brief video is that Tillmans wife wrote a book titled "The Letter" and insinuated in that book that he wasn't behind the war effort any longer and changed his mind regarding it's validity.......  But was prepared to serve out his time and afterwords tell his side of this story......  Is that what you guys got out of that video?..........
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06-27-2012, 18:51
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Big Teddy--
My take is that Mr. Toure is trying to boost ratings of a new show by insinuating that others think Ranger Tillman was murdered by his brothers in arms as part of a wider conspiracy to kill him because he was going to speak out against OEF.
Barring any proof, Mr. Toure resorts to weaseling.
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"So it's not quite clear what happened, actually, in Afghanistan. I mean, just a very complicated situation. I can see how many people could try to take it in the wrong direction," Toure surmised on the new MSNBC program "The Cycle."
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The use of the word "so" reflects the kind of asshat thinking that drives Alcoa's share price. It implies a causative link that cannot be disproved. Indeed, the absence of proof makes the argument more compelling to like-minded asshats.
This is also the argument of an intellectual weasel. "I'm not saying this, but others might."
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06-27-2012, 19:10
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Bullshit!
I do not claim to be an expert on Pat Tillman. However, while most people became aware of him when he gave up a multi-year 3 million dollar contract to stay with the AZ Cardinals, I'd followed his career since he was an undersized LB at Arizona State. Before leaving for the Army, he had a chance to go to another NFL team, for more money, but chose to stay in AZ - because they took a chance on him when NO one else would.
Above all else, Tillman valued loyalty and privacy. HE insisted that his agent NOT publicize what he was doing when he enlisted, and insisted the Army do the same. No matter what he thought, IMHO, there is NO way he would have turned his back on his Ranger brothers - no matter what he thought about the war, the Army, or the President.
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06-27-2012, 19:18
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MOO, there is overwhelming evidence here and "across the street" that Rangers are going to do their duty regardless of their personal views.
To me, this trait is a testimony to their professionalism, not an indictment of it.
It is absolutely shameful that a journalist would insinuate otherwise.
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06-27-2012, 19:27
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The left loathes the Military, especially the mainstream media. They've been stirring up negative shit whenever possible for decades, and more than likely make shit up.
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06-27-2012, 19:29
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I find it even more shameful to hint that a Ranger would purposefully kill his Ranger Brother.
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06-27-2012, 19:41
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I saw an interview Monday with his wife talking about her book - she ain't a happy camper about what happened to who she makes out to be the most sensitive LB in the NFL.
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06-27-2012, 20:29
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Originally Posted by Sigaba
MOO, there is overwhelming evidence here and "across the street" that Rangers are going to do their duty regardless of their personal views.
To me, this trait is a testimony to their professionalism, not an indictment of it.
It is absolutely shameful that a journalist would insinuate otherwise.
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Amen. My brother is a member of that elite brotherhood, and your words are very much appreciated. I've increasingly come to expect low standards of journalism from much of the mainstream media, who it seems love to publicize sensitive information and cash in on grieving families in order to achieve ratings.
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06-27-2012, 20:59
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This is such BS, why can't people just let Ranger Tillman be remembered for the sacrifice he made both for his brother and his country.
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06-28-2012, 00:43
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This guy, "Tourè", is a coward. He feigns as if someone else just dropped a "big terd" in the middle of the table, when it was him.
He wrecklessly disparages the memory and sacrifices of those who didn't survive that day, while at the same time is willing to bring greater torture to the memories still lurking in the dreams and minds of those who did survive that day, including Tillman's understandably conflicted wife.
And he's willing to do so because - in order for some lower forms of life to to build themselves up, they must steal a bit of the nobility, the character and the essense of someone higher than themselves. Not just Tillman, but all of those on the field of battle that day.
And did you notice how they juxtaposed Touré's voice while they show a video of Tillman's mouth moving, almost as if it was Tillman speaking Touré's words.
There is no facet or player in this tragic event Touré isnt willing to exploit.*How pathetic!!!
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06-28-2012, 06:27
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Here is where I am confused. Everything I have read about Tillman said he supported the reasons why we were in Afghanistan. Hell that is why he enlisted. But did not support our reasons for going into Iraq. So right at face value, this ass clown doesn't know what the hell he is talking about.
Secondly, as others have stated, I don't think there is any way on God's green earth that his brother Rangers turned on him, especially given that his brother was in the same unit. There is no way in hell the brother wouldn't have found out about it either before, which would make him culpable, or after the fact. You can't keep something like that hidden in a unit of that caliber.
I understand that the family is upset with DoD, and rightly so. They blatantly lied to the family's face, and then walked away with their tail between their legs when found out. But just because some GOs made a piss poor decision to release fabricated information on how he died does not mean his brothers in arms did it to keep him quiet.
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06-28-2012, 07:20
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"So... I heard that MSNBC has refused to divulge what they REALLY know about Vince Foster."
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06-28-2012, 07:26
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Everything I have read about Tillman said he supported the reasons why we were in Afghanistan. Hell that is why he enlisted. But did not support our reasons for going into Iraq.
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He wasn't/isn't alone in that thinking - there were/are many who felt/feel that way.
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