06-24-2012, 06:47
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As I see it, the news will be released as early as tomorrow that the individual mandate is unconstitutional.
Obama's down to 43 percent (even) in Gallup polling, and IMO the drag from the decision will put him down in the 30's in a few days.
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06-24-2012, 08:52
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Originally Posted by Dusty
As I see it, the news will be released as early as tomorrow that the individual mandate is unconstitutional.
Obama's down to 43 percent (even) in Gallup polling, and IMO the drag from the decision will put him down in the 30's in a few days.
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I hope your're right but they could pull a Bagdad Bob and declare it to be a glorious victory 
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06-24-2012, 09:21
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I hope you're right Dusty.
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06-24-2012, 09:44
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I hope your're right but they could pull a Bagdad Bob and declare it to be a glorious victory |
I imagine there will be strife from the moment the SCOTUS announces the decision until after Romneyfication.
The chihuahas will be yipping and yapping very excitedly. 
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06-24-2012, 10:12
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I wonder how long it will be before the SCOTUS is accused of legislating from the bench.....
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06-24-2012, 10:16
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I wonder how long it will be before the SCOTUS is accused of legislating from the bench.....
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lol That's prolly exactly the way it's being briefed as we type; "OK, if it gets turned down, holler "legislate!" like a pit bull's got your bollocks!".
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06-24-2012, 11:46
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I wonder how long it will be before the SCOTUS is accused of legislating from the bench.....
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His disrespectful previous State of the Union remarks made big friends with many of the Justices. They will play that specific 1st Amendment issue again along with this as they endeavor to seek & destroy individual donors to the general conservative marketing campaigns going on now. So they're gonna come loaded for bear with every divisive class-warfare item in the playbook.
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06-24-2012, 23:15
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There is no way ANY means this mandate is in accordance with the U.S. Constitution. Especially given the input of top health care professionals.
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06-25-2012, 07:26
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There is no way ANY means this mandate is in accordance with the U.S. Constitution.
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Same with most Obamacrap.
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06-25-2012, 08:02
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There is no way ANY means this mandate is in accordance with the U.S. Constitution. Especially given the input of top health care professionals.
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Argument was about individuals being made to purchase a product, the justification for said mandated purchase being avoiding the overall societal costs.
So can they make you buy a motorcycle helmet?
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06-25-2012, 12:20
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Originally Posted by Billy L-bach
I wonder how long it will be before the SCOTUS is accused of legislating from the bench.....
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http://www.thedailybeast.com/article...eme-court.html
Oh, they already have been accused of exactly that. I've read plenty of commentary similar to the above link. I like to keep an eye on what the other side is thinking so I spend as much time reading opinion bits from Newsweek columnists and the like as I do browsing the Cato Institute blog and Reason.tv.
And this one by the same author gave me a chuckle:
http://www.thedailybeast.com/article...the-court.html
How dare the SCOTUS get in Obama's way! Don't they know that the system of checks and balances is merely symbolic? Their job isn't to preserve the integrity of the Constitution, but to 'interpret' it in order to justify whatever federal intrusion is necessary for the 'good of the Nation'. <--Ok, that bit of sarcasm could be funny, if it weren't true... 
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06-25-2012, 13:22
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Argument was about individuals being made to purchase a product, the justification for said mandated purchase being avoiding the overall societal costs.
So can they make you buy a motorcycle helmet?
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Don't they make you purchase auto insurance?
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06-25-2012, 13:27
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Don't they make you purchase auto insurance?
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The difference is that you don't have to purchase auto insurance just because you are alive. You only have to purchase auto insurance if you drive a vehicle. And what if you are in a state that does not have a mandatory helmet law?
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06-25-2012, 13:31
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Is it federally mandated? I don't think so... I believe it is by state and can vary with their requirements.
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06-25-2012, 13:48
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The difference is that you don't have to purchase auto insurance just because you are alive. You only have to purchase auto insurance if you drive a vehicle. And what if you are in a state that does not have a mandatory helmet law?
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In most of the USA, if you don't drive, odds are you aren't going to find and keep a job. Public transportation in the good ole USA is sorely lacking.
IMO, if you don't wear a helmet, then you should be limited in the ability to sue for head related injuries.
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