Obama Backs Gay Marriage

Dusty · 05-09-2012, 13:30

He KNOWs he's one and done...

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2012...iage-position/

President Obama has endorsed same-sex marriages, using a TV interview to make his position clear after days of questions about where he stands.

"At a certain point, I've just concluded that for me personally, it is important for me to go ahead and affirm that I think same-sex couples should be able to get married," Obama told ABC News.

ORIGINAL STORY ...

President Obama is expected to discuss his position on same-sex marriage during a hastily arranged interview at the White House Wednesday afternoon, a source close to the president told Fox News.

The source, who is a Democratic adviser outside the White House, said Obama during this interview is likely to go further than he has in the past on the controversial topic.

"He'll make some news," the source said. "He's not just going to talk about old ground ... and will not be rehashing" his old position.

Whether that means Obama will endorse gay marriage, or offer a more nuanced position, is unclear.

Obama in the past has said he is "evolving" on the matter, stopping short of endorsing the unions.

But statements in recent days supportive of gay marriage by both Vice President Biden and Education Secretary Arne Duncan have put pressure on Obama to make his personal view crystal clear. Drawing more attention to the issue, voters in North Carolina on Tuesday approved a state constitutional amendment banning gay marriage.

The Obama interview is being conducted by ABC News.

Two other sources said it's possible Obama may stop short again of an actual endorsement of same-sex marriages.

Fox News' Ed Henry contributed to this report.

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glebo · 05-09-2012, 13:45

Well, lets hope that it helps him lose NC in the election...amongst other states..

cbtengr · 05-09-2012, 13:46

He held as long as he could on this issue but the writing is on the wall for him. I like the sound of one and done!

**Pete** · 05-09-2012, 15:00

If we didn't repeal DADT I really wouldn't care who marries who.

But the two issues have been tied together with heavy chains by both sides of the agenda.

I'd say reinstate DADT and let non-military folks marry whoever they want.

BOfH · 05-09-2012, 15:08

Well, he lost my vote

craigepo · 05-09-2012, 17:12

Interesting article attached, arguing that some muslims are alright with this, as it makes their arguments for polygamy easier.

http://www.nationalreview.com/articl...-david-j-rusin

Dusty · 05-09-2012, 17:40

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Originally Posted by craigepo

Interesting article attached, arguing that some muslims are alright with this, as it makes their arguments for polygamy easier.

http://www.nationalreview.com/articl...-david-j-rusin

...but not OK with most blacks:

http://ideas.time.com/2012/05/09/wil...#ixzz1uPIoKREm

05-09-2012, 19:07

What's next? Endorsing marriage with one's pet? Celebrating a wedding between a man and his corvette? C'mon now, let us be serious...

Susa · 05-09-2012, 19:55

Everything about this man is disingenuous. As with most things that this President does, the timing of this announcement is suspect. I strongly believe that because of Biden's comments this past weekend, the Pres. and his staff felt that he would be quizzed endlessly tomorrow night at the mega-fundraiser that good ol' George Clooney is throwing at his pad for him to the tune of $14-16 million. I'm certain that the Hollywood liberal-elite will congratulate him and throw even more money his way because of what he said today.

**Pete** · 05-09-2012, 19:55

‘On My Behalf’

http://www.weeklystandard.com/blogs/...lf_644310.html

"............“I have to tell you that over the course of several years as I talked to friends and family and neighbors, when I think about members of my own staff who are in incredibly committed monogamous relationships, same-sex relationships, who are raising kids together; when I think about those soldiers or airmen or marines or sailors who are out there fighting on my behalf and yet feel constrained, even now that ‘don't ask, don't tell’ is gone, because they are not able to commit themselves in a marriage, at a certain point I've just concluded that for me personally it is important for me to go ahead and affirm that I think same sex couples should be able to get married.”................"

Read the above slowly. Other than troops fighting on his behalf notice how gay marriage gets tied to the military and DADT.

KimuraFTW · 05-09-2012, 20:55

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Originally Posted by Sierra Lima

What's next? Endorsing marriage with one's pet? Celebrating a wedding between a man and his corvette? C'mon now, let us be serious...

Well, since this would basically be redefining the concept of marriage, I actually can't imagine those things being too far off...

abc_123 · 05-09-2012, 21:30

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Originally Posted by Susa

Everything about this man is disingenuous. As with most things that this President does, the timing of this announcement is suspect. I strongly believe that because of Biden's comments this past weekend, the Pres. and his staff felt that he would be quizzed endlessly tomorrow night at the mega-fundraiser that good ol' George Clooney is throwing at his pad for him to the tune of $14-16 million. I'm certain that the Hollywood liberal-elite will congratulate him and throw even more money his way because of what he said today.

Close. Definately the timing of the announcement is a political calculation. This is a despiration move.

Luger (the Democrat's Republican in the Senate) got crushed in the Indiana Repub primary. The Wisconsin gubernatorial primary had a 90something percent turnout for a Repub governor who should be very unpopular after taking on the unions..right? And, who's to forget the WV Demo primary where O-No got what, 59% vs. a felon in prison in Texas?

dadof18x'er · 05-09-2012, 23:36

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Originally Posted by abc_123

Close. Definately the timing of the announcement is a political calculation. This is a despiration move.

Luger (the Democrat's Republican in the Senate) got crushed in the Indiana Repub primary. The Wisconsin gubernatorial primary had a 90something percent turnout for a Repub governor who should be very unpopular after taking on the unions..right? And, who's to forget the WV Demo primary where O-No got what, 59% vs. a felon in prison in Texas?

wouldn't it be fitting if this gay marriage flap was started by of all people Biden?
it'll be one for the gaffe hall of fame

Dusty · 05-10-2012, 07:36

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Originally Posted by dadof18x'er

wouldn't it be fitting if this gay marriage flap was started by of all people Biden?
it'll be one for the gaffe hall of fame

A gay marriage political crisis, not ‘evolution’

By Ed Rogers

There is a lot of fawning media coverage of President Obama's new support for gay marriage. There is serious discussion of how he "evolved," and there are serious timelines being prepared by the Obama apologencia that earnestly track his "evolution." The only problem is they don't put "evolution" in quotation marks to highlight the cynical doubts that Obama's conversion deserves. There is every reason to believe that this decision was made because Obama thinks it serves his current selfish political interests. He characterizes his politically expedient flip-flop as a theological "evolution." The reality is, his political trajectory has stalled and he "evolved" into a desperate political situation.

The path to his final "evolution" and telling the truth about how he really feels about gay marriage don’t 't just reveal his changed thinking, it perfectly matches his political needs at every step of his ambitious career. Let's pause before we do any planning for an expansion to the eventual Obama monument on the Mall.

Reality check: Obama manipulated gay voters, kept them at a distance and hoped they would settle for the occasional wink and a nod. But he has found himself in a campaign with dwindling enthusiasm and a narrowing electoral map; he needs this group's enthusiastic support and high turnout in November.

Even so, it took Vice President Biden's moment of honesty to force the president's hand. Obama did this because he needed to, not because he wanted to.

tonyz · 05-10-2012, 07:52

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Originally Posted by Dusty

Even so, it took Vice President Biden's moment of honesty to force the president's hand.

Maybe OBL was right about Biden..."take a bow Chuck..."

"I mean, you got the first mainstream African-American who is articulate and bright and clean and a nice-looking guy. I mean, that's a storybook, man."

If one is a terrorist - why try and shut up such a high level idiot. Take a bow Joe.