05-07-2012, 06:45
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US Secretly releasing Taliban to gain favor in negotiations.
This will end well and make them like us.
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KABUL – The US has been secretly releasing captured Taliban fighters from a detention center in Afghanistan in a bid to strengthen its hand in peace talks with the insurgent group, the Washington Post reported Monday.
The "strategic release" program of high-level detainees is designed to give the US a bargaining chip in some areas of Afghanistan where international forces struggle to exercise control, the report said.
Under the risky program, the hardened fighters must promise to give up violence and are threatened with further punishment, but there is nothing to stop them resuming attacks against Afghan and American troops.
"Everyone agrees they are guilty of what they have done and should remain in detention. Everyone agrees that these are bad guys. But the benefits outweigh the risks," a US official told the Post.
In a visit to Afghanistan last week, President Barack Obama confirmed that the US was pursuing peace talks with the Taliban.
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"We have made it clear that they [the Taliban] can be a part of this future if they break with Al Qaeda, renounce violence, and abide by Afghan laws. Many members of the Taliban -- from foot soldiers to leaders -- have indicated an interest in reconciliation. A path to peace is now set before them," Obama said.
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A stumbling block in the US-Taliban peace talks has been the US refusal to approve the transfer of five Taliban detainees from Guantanamo Bay to Qatar, which the Taliban says is necessary for negotiations to proceed.
The clock is ticking also on the US handover of security control to the Afghans.
At the upcoming NATO summit in Chicago, the US coalition will set a goal for Afghan forces to take the lead in combat operations across the country next year.
During his short visit, Obama and Afghan President Hamid Karzai signed a partnership deal that charts a 10-year relationship between the US and Afghanistan once the majority of American and foreign forces pull out of the country in 2014.
Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/world/2012/05...#ixzz1uBgQlVUG
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05-07-2012, 10:19
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This will end well and make them like us.
"Everyone agrees they are guilty of what they have done and should remain in detention. Everyone agrees that these are bad guys. But the benefits outweigh the risks," a US official told the Post.
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So (a few) more American lives are worth an ace in the hole at the negotiating table, what @$$holes
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05-07-2012, 10:27
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Risky,I think it's a lot more than just that,more like STUPID........... 
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05-07-2012, 10:30
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Maybe the plan is to release them, put them on a bus to transport them back to the Taliban, then blow up the bus with a Predator/Reaper as it approaches the Taliban line.
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05-07-2012, 11:52
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Maybe the plan is to release them, put them on a bus to transport them back to the Taliban, then blow up the bus with a Predator/Reaper as it approaches the Taliban line.
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Sounds like something the Israelis would do, I don't think this administration has the balls for that... 
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05-07-2012, 13:30
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Sounds like something the Israelis would do, I don't think this administration has the balls for that... |
Yeah,your right,however if "O" would do it you know that if it failed he'd have someone's ass,if it worked,he's have a special news break telling every one it's was his idea an he gave it a GO....... 
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05-07-2012, 16:39
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How about we implant a surgical tracker and as big a charge as we can get into them?
If they leave the designated area, either we take them out with the charge or use the tracker to guide in a Predator strike, just to collect their friends too?
Hell, you could even announce it, even if it wasn't true, and their buddies would take care of them right after they went home.
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05-07-2012, 17:23
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Sedate them and have them wake up with a small suture on their hand with a tattoo that reads, "American GPS device here---->" .
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05-07-2012, 18:12
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Sedate them and have them wake up with a small suture on their hand with a tattoo that reads, "American GPS device here---->" .
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Subtlety at its finest.
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05-07-2012, 18:31
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Subtlety at its finest.
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I should have posted in pink.....
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05-07-2012, 19:05
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How about we implant a surgical tracker and as big a charge as we can get into them?
If they leave the designated area, either we take them out with the charge or use the tracker to guide in a Predator strike, just to collect their friends too?
Hell, you could even announce it, even if it wasn't true, and their buddies would take care of them right after they went home.
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I've been say that when we pull out if these COP and fires bases we should have Predators over head watching the one in TB areas. Then air strike the 100 + man party going in in them. I don't think any Admiration would do that.
I love to watch that YouTube video.
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05-07-2012, 19:33
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We let these " bad guys" go because the benefits outweigh the risks? I never use to fear my government but I do now. These assholes that are making these calls have got to go, the blood of our soldiers is on their hands. Talk about naive, "Under the risky program, the hardened fighters must promise to give up violence and are threatened with further punishment, but there is nothing to stop them resuming attacks against Afghan and American troops." Our policy makers are out of their minds.
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05-08-2012, 05:04
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Risky,I think it's a lot more than just that,more like STUPID...........
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Yep. Just wait until one of them kills another American. Oblamer will get flamed.
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05-08-2012, 05:59
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Maybe the DOJ will use them as mules to carry guns to Mexico.
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05-08-2012, 07:52
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Under the risky program, the hardened fighters must promise to give up violence...
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YGBSM - "hardened fighters" promise to stop fighting if we let them go...Taqiyya on steroids.
One can only hope that there is a bigger picture - one that includes close observation and a violent demise for these "hardened fighters" - being played by our folks - 'cause we are playing with fire.
Seems to me like there have been some reasonable suggestions previously made in this thread.
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