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Old 04-20-2012, 07:19   #1
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Marine Corps to Open Infantry Officer Course to Women.

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Marine Corps to Open Infantry Officer Course to Women. The Corps' Infantry Officer Course will enroll its first female students this year.

April 20, 2012, Stars and Stripes, by Jennifer Hlad

WASHINGTON -- The Marine Corps will soon allow women to attend its school for infantry officers, as part of a larger effort to determine how to expand the role of women in the Corps.

Gen. Joseph Dunford, assistant commandant of the Marine Corps, told the Marine Corps Times on Wednesday that the service is in the process of soliciting volunteers to attend the Infantry Officer Course in Quantico, Va.

All Marine infantry officers attend the 10-week course after completing The Basic School. Dunford and other Marine officials have not said what the next steps will be for women who volunteer to attend the school.


http://www.military.com/news/article...tml?ESRC=eb.nl

Next Week: MARSOC Graduates First Full Class of Female Candidates,, in less than a week...
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Old 04-20-2012, 08:05   #2
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I was wondering how long it would take for this article to make it here
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Old 04-21-2012, 09:16   #3
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Interesting.
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Old 04-21-2012, 09:24   #4
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Hey, if they can cut it.

No more "Women and children first!" during shipwrecks, though...
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Old 04-21-2012, 13:03   #5
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I was wondering how long it would take for this article to make it here
Do you think this is good for women and/or the military?
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Old 04-21-2012, 13:23   #6
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And the Games begin...





Next Week: MARSOC Graduates First Full Class of Female Candidates,, in less than a week...
Your joking of course,but it will happen only in time.........

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Old 04-21-2012, 14:27   #7
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Interesting.

When you shove a lomotil down their throat-give them no bath for 5 days, make them carry the standard 20 mags of 5.56 and 18 rounds each on webgear, add two concussion grenades, two smokes, and a WP, plus more. Then you add a 60 mm mortar round to that heavy ruck, add 20 more mags of 5.56, add a claymore, add an extra battery for the radio, add a bandoleer of 100-200 rounds of 7.62 around their neck, add a LAW per rifleman and CO , plus rations and water and no poncho-that is the INFANTRY. Then to wake them up you give them a brown bomber to unload the constipation just like all of us.. And that is not even a claymore, nor food, nor personal items which had best be none, much less first aid, bug juice etc. We did not carry toothpaste or soap in the INFANTRY. You will smell RIPE.
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Do you think this is good for women and/or the military?
If they have to maintain the same standards as the men, I am alright with it. Besides most women in the Marines look like the guys anyway
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Old 04-21-2012, 14:42   #9
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If they have to maintain the same standards as the men, I am alright with it. Besides most women in the Marines look like the guys anyway
I don't think ladies should be Infantry. I know some very smart women. I do not need to know their smell like a fellow Infantryman. I just like ladies to smell like ladies..
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If they have to maintain the same standards as the men...
Given the history of gender-norming in every other aspect of the military I wouldn't expect it to be different now.

This is about political favors, so the Commandant can get a nice cushy job post retirement, not about whats good for Marines, women, or the security of our nation.
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Old 04-21-2012, 15:09   #11
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Crack in the door

Just another crack in the door. Enough hits on it and it swings wide open smashed off the hinges.

At each step of the way glowing reports will be written about how wonderful this, that and the other problem is anything bad and "You must have a leadership issue in your unit." We all know what the end game is - the unknown is how long it will take.

Standards will be different or they will be lowered so proper numbers can pass.

The grunts in the trenches will have to do the heavy lifting on this.

You young stud muffins will have to let the chips fall where they may. No doing for her what you would tell the other guy "Suck it up and drive on."

But I can see those batting eyelashes now - "Pretty Please, I'll make it up to you when we get out of the field."
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Old 04-21-2012, 15:12   #12
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Hey, if they can cut it.

No more "Women and children first!" during shipwrecks, though...
The inclusion of women into previously all male combat schools will bring enormous pressure to lower physical standards. What happens when the first five female students are relived for failing physical standards and claim discrimination?

I would like to think that the military hierarchy would display moral courage and say that "The standard is the standard, meet it or leave"..... but my experience teaches me otherwise.
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The inclusion of women into previously all male combat schools will bring enormous pressure to lower physical standards. What happens when the first five female students are relived for failing physical standards and claim discrimination?
Then they join the FBI...
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Old 04-21-2012, 15:28   #14
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Slowly women achieve equal rights despite the enormous opposition to them having equal rights. Democracy and equality are very difficult concepts to be accepted by some people.

Max Planck who was a very famous physicist (Planck's Constant) had an interesting saying.

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Old 04-21-2012, 15:39   #15
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Slowly women achieve equal rights..........
Equal? Or different?

I've brought this up a few times. Equal would be a Combat Arms PT test where if you pass it male or female you can even be Infantry - if you want. So some females will work towards passing the "ONE" test.

So some Grunt hates the Infantry so he fails the Combat Arms PT test. Will he be treated the same as the females who don't pass? I doubt it.
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