03-21-2012, 12:22
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What not to do with Uncles toys...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature...&v=CUtyUTLeW1g
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There were no injuries or deaths in this accident. The pilots are facing criminal charges. The troops on the ground were narrowly missed.
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Career Ending,, Nuff Said?? 
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03-21-2012, 12:55
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Hold my beer. Watch this....
Damn lucky no one was killed....
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03-21-2012, 15:49
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Certainly a needless way to possibly Kill troops on the ground and destroy $20 million worth of equipment. What were you thinking Warrant?
Going top gun over an FOB is just a NO GO.
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03-21-2012, 16:09
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I think that call back from 160th SOAR just got canceled. 
Glad they survived (for the Court Martial) and no one on the ground was killed, but what a stupid move. 
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03-21-2012, 16:36
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Glad they survived
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The quote was from the youtube page,,
If you stop-n-start at 30 - 34 sec marks.. It sure looks like that bird does 4 or 5 cartwheels after losing the tail rotor..
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03-21-2012, 16:42
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03-21-2012, 16:45
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Wasn't that Prince Harry's check-out?
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03-21-2012, 16:47
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Well, he had one.
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03-21-2012, 17:29
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The quote was from the youtube page,,
If you stop-n-start at 30 - 34 sec marks.. It sure looks like that bird does 4 or 5 cartwheels after losing the tail rotor.. |
Blessed be thy snow bank they plowed into.
The story only says they survived, it don't say how FUBAR their spine looks.
I'm gonna bet the pilot wishes he'd died after that error. Sure probably hates that it was all caught on camera.
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03-21-2012, 18:30
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As an ex-Pathfinder, I can predict the report from Ft. Rucker:
"The pilot placed his aircraft in a position of altitude, attitude,
and airspeed from which recovery to controlled flight was not
possible prior to impact with terrain."
Usually reported in connection with multiple fatalities. These
guys were lucky to survive.
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03-21-2012, 19:36
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I don't get how this could happen. They say the most dangerous words a pilot can say are, "Watch this!" In training, I would assume these pilots learned similarly. Why run the risk? Are both pilots to blame for this though? What if one pilot was against the maneuver? How does that work out? Michael Durant, of the Blackhawk Down incident, in his book he writes how he messed up as a pilot, tried pulling a slick maneuver with the helicopter close to the ground and knocked the rear landing gear wheel off from under the tail rotor. He had to lower the helicopter down where just the front wheels were touching the ground while a soldier crept up behind and pushed a box underneath the tailrotor assembly. And as it turned out, it was either a colonel or a major that was flying above and saw the whole thing!
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I'm gonna bet that pilot has done that maneuver countless times before this incident. It's not like he was flying a transport helo, (although the TF-160 pilots do that in MH-60s often. I know I've been in one one time and it's a wild ride.) In this case the pilot was flying an attack helicopter and both pilot and gunner would have known what's involved before it started. It was a showboat that at high altitude probably caught him by surprise and the last words after "watch this" were, "oh, fuck".
Half the scary shit that I ever experienced in SF was being in flight MH-53s, MH-60s, Chinooks both special ones and standard ones, and everything the Air Force had for fixed wings. We flew the Columbia Gorge one time in a C-141 below the canyon tops. I was ever so happy to jump out of that one. And then see things like that C-17 and a B-52 bomber rollover and crash makes you question why you do this.
I guess if you don't push the envelope in training and areas of non-conflict how are you supposed to exceed them when someone really is either shooting at you or depending on you...
It was a textbook rotor turn, he just ran out of real estate and now his career is over. I don't even know the gunner is culpable the Army will decide that.
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03-21-2012, 19:54
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yU-SAGrqxzA
Here is another good one-
"Think I can make it in between there?"
"Nope."
"Oh ye of little faith....."
D.
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03-22-2012, 07:23
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I found an update..
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This Insane Video Of An Apache Helicopter Crash In Afghanistan Is Real
This video purportedly from Sharana, Afghanistan shows a pilot in an Apache AH-64 helicopter flying close enough to the ground to cause soldiers witnessing the incident to scream "Oh my God" before the helicopter hits the surface, nearly cutting into numerous soldiers before it spins wildly out of control. Supposedly, everyone survived. UPDATE.
There are conflicting reports as to whether or not this was negligent showboating or an accident caused by doing a return to target maneuver during high altitude practice.
But, all reports seem to agree that everyone somehow survived.
UPDATE: If this is Forward Operating Base Sharana in the Paktika Province of Afghanistan (compare to photos of the base) then this pilot was likely from the 1st Battalion 227th Aviation Regiment. We're trying to confirm the condition and unit.
UPDATE 2: Danger Room places the crash at an outpost in Marzak also in the Paktika region.
UPDATE 3: A military spokesperson confirms the incident happened on February 8th, telling ABC News no one was killed and that the issue was under investigation.
http://jalopnik.com/5895212/this-ins...nistan-is-real
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03-22-2012, 07:45
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More regarding this from a blog within a blog. Thanks DM.
This is actually a maneuver gone wrong (cold air, high altitude, angle of the sun, watch-this factor etc)What it SHOULDA looked like, too
http://wingsoveriraq.com/2012/03/21/...oing-it-wrong/
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03-22-2012, 08:11
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I saw a Kiowa do that in Mosul a few years ago. Very effective technique against hajji in the open. 
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