03-21-2012, 07:44
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Black militia group wants to arrest Trayvon Martin shooter
I am amazed with all the time and effort spent in the past few years conjuring up the Militia Demons that this group got missed.
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A spokeswoman for the Southern Poverty Law Center, a civil rights group that monitors hate groups, said her organization didn't have any information on The New Black Liberation Militia. The group describes itself on its website as "Developing and Teaching Spiritual, Psychological, Social, Holistic and Scientific Methods and Techniques to ensure the survival of black people in the 21st century and beyond."
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http://www.thegrio.com/specials/tray...in-shooter.php
Base on the picture:
A New Black Panther Party member stands guard with "700 NBPP" tattooed on his face.. (credit: Sara D. Davis/Getty Images)
A New Black Panther Party member stands guard with “700 NBPP” tattooed on his face.., looks like King Samir Shabazz may be in it as well
http://tampa.cbslocal.com/2012/03/15...-watch-leader/
I wonder where Eric Holder stands on Vigilante Groups?
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03-21-2012, 07:47
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Dude, face it. If you're a Euro-American Judeo-Christian male, you're surrounded.
From what I've gathered about this incident so far, the shooter violated a cardinal rule; it's for the Courts to decide, of course.
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03-21-2012, 07:53
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I wonder where Eric Holder stands on Vigilante Groups?
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Certainly you know that a "member of a traditionally disadvantaged class" can't be found guilty of stepping on a crack in the sidewalk.
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03-21-2012, 08:02
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Typical grandstanding move for media attention.
FWIW, that statement was ' news' from last week before the DOJ dusted off their Marshal's badges, strapped on their six-shooters, woke up Festus to watch the jail, and sashayed on out into the fray.
We'll be hearing about it all for a long time to come as it plays out in the MSM, the blogosphere, talk radio, and the justice system.
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03-21-2012, 12:00
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Interesting, but I could have sworn George Zimmerman was Hispanic...
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03-21-2012, 13:03
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Neighborhood Watch
When the Cops came to our Neighborhood Watch meetings they stressed we were not LEO's.
I was not there but he was doing neighborhood watch and he had a weapon and a phone.
From what I gather - the neighborhood was fairly nice - similar to mine - which has some less than nice areas within a couple of blocks.
Most unknown "visitors" will pick up the pace and stop looking left and right if you give them that little head nod "I see you" look.
We did have some teenagers a few years back who went through the neighborhood looking for unlocked cars - and they would take anything not nailed down. Spare change and CD's were hot items. They got caught in the act more than once but them buggers were fast and could hop fences with the best of them.
Oh, and I've heard the "kid" was 6'3".
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03-21-2012, 13:47
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This reminds of Tawana Brawley and the Duke lacrosse cases in that you have Rev. Al and Shabazz grabbing attention, coming to the aid of the 'victim', jumping to conclusions and condemning the fairer skinned person(s) involved without a day in court.
All good comments, all are on the mark.........but damn the hypocrisy really gets me!
Interesting as well that CBS would only put the left cheek of King Shabazz on their story....probably for fear that Homie Shabazz might be recognized as the 2008 NBBP Poll Thug.
Even more amazing the SPLC found tons of information on the Hutaree Group, enough to garner them name specific attention on the MIAC report......but they don't have any information on the NBLM.
Wow!
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03-21-2012, 16:09
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Al Sharpton was all over it too, big surprise .
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03-21-2012, 17:46
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According to his neighbor there have been 7 B&Es over the last year the whole neighborhood is fed up with it.
This is another of those things that the internet is good for; convicting someone before they are even charged with a crime. No one knows the circumstances involved here. How about waiting until all the facts are properly gathered. You know, that little thing called evidence?
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03-21-2012, 18:20
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But that tattoo on the face...
really makes life easy on law enforcement
officers.
Can't wait to see it on a mug shot.
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03-21-2012, 19:17
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According to his neighbor there have been 7 B&Es over the last year the whole neighborhood is fed up with it.
This is another of those things that the internet is good for; convicting someone before they are even charged with a crime. No one knows the circumstances involved here. How about waiting until all the facts are properly gathered. You know, that little thing called evidence?
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Like the Duke rape case? Those guys never got an apology from the media, or the so called civil rights leaders.
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03-21-2012, 21:54
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My bet is two guys with attitudes butting heads and playing my dick is bigger got out of hand and Zimmerman panicked.
However, that is a wild a**ed guess and means nothing until, as has been mentioned, the evidence is in and sorted, cataloged, and EVALUATED.
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03-22-2012, 04:13
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I wonder where Eric Holder stands on Vigilante Groups?
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03-22-2012, 06:09
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Who thinks the shooter was "white"?
Zimmerman was on the ground being punched when he shot Trayvon Martin
Continue reading on Examiner.com Zimmerman was on the ground being punched when he shot Trayvon Martin - Charleston Charleston Conservative | Examiner.com http://www.examiner.com/charleston-c...#ixzz1pqYqloFm
"..............Literally thousands of articles contain at least one false statement in the first couple of lines. They usually read "George ZImmerman, a white man," or "shoot by a white man." Zimmerman is described by family as a multiracial Hispanic. His appearance is clearly that of a Latino/Mestizo individual. However, the media wants him to be white because that better fits the political narrative they are trying to artificially create. Many news articles have also claimed the neighborhood is "mostly white." This is also a lie. The neighborhood is only 49% white. It is over half non-white.................."
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03-22-2012, 06:28
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No need for a court system...
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Reporting from Sanford, Fla.—
In a tense meeting Wednesday that highlighted growing tensions over the shooting death of an unarmed black teenager, local officials in Sanford, Fla., passed a vote of no confidence in the police chief as protests spread north to New York City, where the slain youth’s parents joined a Manhattan march demanding the killer’s arrest.
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http://www.latimes.com/news/nation/n...,4163905.story
And from MSNBC's Judge Lawrence O'Donnell
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"Legally, those two words ... it seems to me constitute obvious evidence of hateful intent. This is a racial slur that you're hearing him say minutes, seconds possibly, before he shoots a black teenager to death for doing nothing."
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"I've studied police cover-ups in the past," he said. "...I believe that what we have here is evidence of a police cover-up...that local police department never wanted anyone to hear those two words."
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http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/0...n_1369414.html
And of course this happened because of lax gun laws.......at least according to Bloomberg
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Trayvon Martin Shooting Shows Perils of Lax U.S. Gun Laws
By the Editors - Mar 20, 2012
The Justice Department opened an investigation this week into the killing of Trayvon Martin, a 17-year-old high school student who was shot dead on Feb. 26 in Sanford, Florida.
Martin was returning to the home of his father’s girlfriend from a 7-Eleven, armed with a package of Skittles and an iced tea, when he was killed. George Zimmerman -- a self-appointed neighborhood watch captain, according to news reports -- had called 911 and proceeded to follow Martin, even after the dispatcher advised him not to. Soon after, Zimmerman told police, he shot Martin.
Crime is a problem in the U.S. So are guns. According to the local police chief, Zimmerman, 28, had a permit for a concealed weapon, which is easily obtained in Florida. He also had a penchant for calling the police, having made 46 such calls in the past 13 months to report suspicious behavior. Based on news reports, it appears that Zimmerman believed he had much to fear from crime. As things turned out, Martin had much more to fear from Zimmerman’s gun.
Martin didn’t have a lot of protection from the law, either. Florida’s “Stand your Ground” law allows people to use deadly force -- even before an unarmed person -- provided they “reasonably believe” it’s necessary to defend themselves. It’s a shockingly low standard, but it’s not inconsistent with the highest law of the land.
Scalia’s Opinion
Writing for a bitterly divided Supreme Court in 2008, Justice Antonin Scalia brushed past the ambiguous language of the Second Amendment and the convoluted history of gun rights in the U.S. to establish or affirm (depending on your point of view) a right of individuals to own guns. Yet in his 5-4 opinion in District of Columbia v. Heller, even Scalia maintained that the right is not unlimited. “We do not read the Second Amendment to protect the right of citizens to carry arms for any sort of confrontation,” Scalia wrote.
The question, then, is what public policies are constitutionally justified to prevent the wrong “sort of confrontation”?
At present, it seems, not many. Since the Heller decision, which overturned Washington’s strict gun law, controls have been crumbling across the nation. In Oklahoma, lawmakers appear poised to enact an “open carry” law, allowing residents to display firearms in public. The National Rifle Association and other lobbyists for gun manufacturers are pushing for loaded guns to be allowed in college classrooms and dormitories. Legislation proposed in Congress would force states to allow holders of concealed weapons permits from other jurisdictions to carry guns where it’s otherwise illegal.
Dissolution of Order
A ruling this month in Maryland seems emblematic of the dissolution of order. U.S. District Judge Benson Everett Legg overturned a state law requiring that residents show a “good and substantial reason” to carry a gun on the grounds that such a standard was unconstitutional.
Activists are now insisting that race played a role in Martin’s death. Perhaps it did. (In a recording of Zimmerman’s 911 call, it sounds as if Zimmerman mutters a racial epithet.) On Tuesday, the state attorney’s office for Brevard and Seminole counties announced that a grand jury would investigate the shooting.
A racial motivation would push the case toward criminal terrain, and justly so. But racism is not the only way a mind can be distorted and its judgment impaired. There is nothing in Florida law, for example, to prevent people whose perceptions are distorted by fear from owning a gun -- or an arsenal of them -- and carrying a concealed and loaded weapon on the street.
This is one obvious flaw in the mad rush to arm America, which we hope statehouses, courts and Congress will belatedly factor into their thinking. Guns ever at the ready will be used, with tragic results.
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But there is this contrary opinion to the Bloomberg opinion back with some data about the decline Florida crime
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Florida passed "must-issue" concealed carry in 1987 in response to a boom in crime in Florida during the 1980s. Critics said that this law would lead to a "shooting gallery" and drive crimes through the roof.
What has happened to both crime and violent crime since? Violent crime has dropped from 1,220.9 per 100,000 in 1990 to 542.9 in 2010, a drop of more than half. (2011 numbers are not yet out.)
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