Army’s Top NCO Talking Radical Reforms to Uniforms, Grooming

BMT (RIP) · 03-14-2012, 14:52

http://www.lineofdeparture.com/2012/...orms-grooming/

Comment's for this story are something else.

BMT

afchic · 03-14-2012, 15:34

Well, at least your new dress and appearance regulation does not mandate that women shave their legs, like the new AF one does.

I understand the need to ensure we look like a professional force, but one comment struck me: The army has a epidemic of suicides, reduction in force into an shitty economy, issues with PTSD being overturned to save money etc, and this is what leadership is focused on?

The Army is not alone in this. Last time I was at Al Udied, the morale on that base was so low they were starting to dig. And it all came from inane things leadership saw as issues. There were CMSgts stationed there whose only purpose in life was to ensure airmen were following uniform policies. Better make sure you have your disco belt on, better make sure your backpack had it's disco belt on. No flip flops back and forth from tents to the shower, actually no flip flops allowed anywhere. ETC ETC. When SNCOs have nothing better to do during wartime than to site uniform infractions, it is time to pack up and go home, we have been there too long.

Dusty · 03-14-2012, 15:48

"Men can't wear makeup or nail polish."

I remember that being a particularly contentious subject back when I was on AD.

Not.

greenberetTFS · 03-14-2012, 15:57

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Originally Posted by Dusty

"Men can't wear makeup or nail polish."

I remember that being a particularly contentious subject back when I was on AD.

Not.

I don't know about that Dusty,if the guy is gay and wants to look feminized I thought the "New" Army would permit(allow?)it?.............

Big Teddy

cat in the hat · 03-14-2012, 16:22

so we have a government slowly taking away our pay, allowances and earned benefits and the SMA's biggest concern is that I wear a belt in my civilian pants when off duty.

Dozer523 · 03-14-2012, 16:29

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Originally Posted by cat in the hat

so we have a government slowly taking away our pay, allowances and earned benefits and the SMA's biggest concern is that I wear a belt in my civilian pants when off duty.

He might add "no one can go off the FOB alone", now.

**Pete** · 03-14-2012, 17:24

Tattoo's? Could have seen that one coming. We've talked about them for years.

But looking at the changes as a whole for the guys - I don't really see much difference from the old regs. Just some touchups and dusting here and there.

Hey - look at the bright side - they ain't proposing that the Army goes back to black boots you can spit shine - YET.

ECUPirate09 · 03-14-2012, 18:56

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Sleeve, half-sleeve and quarter-sleeve tattoos “that are visible to the eye” when in the PT shorts and t-shirt are banned. Soldiers currently with the sleeve tattoos “will be allowed to retain them.”

Read more: http://www.lineofdeparture.com/2012/...#ixzz1p8tXvmN7

So if someone with these was trying to enlist, he/she would need to have those tattoo sleeves removed before signing a contract/shipping?

Dusty · 03-14-2012, 19:15

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Originally Posted by ECUPirate09

So if someone with these was trying to enlist, he/she would need to have those tattoo sleeves removed before signing a contract/shipping?

Sounds like it. What bothers me is, if SHTF and I get called back in to teach 'cruits how to load magazines, I'll have to get the portrait of Wes Studi burnt off my ass.

Oldrotorhead · 03-14-2012, 19:29

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Originally Posted by Dusty

Sounds like it. What bothers me is, if SHTF and I get called back in to teach 'cruits how to load magazines, I'll have to get the portrait of Wes Studi burnt off my ass.

Get that on video.

This happened in the 1970's and as far as I know every time there id a RIF.

scooter · 03-14-2012, 19:42

Regardless of whether or not I agree, I understand where he is coming from with respect to most of these issues.

Break.

The civilian clothing ideas, saluting off duty at walmart, the back pack one strap/black only comeback, and punishment under UCMJ for uniform violations are.............interesting.

That will look good later in life.

Felony Conviction under the UCMJ
Crime: Didn't wear a belt with my jeans

John_Chrichton · 03-14-2012, 19:47

The link seems to not be working. Every other blog out there links back to the nonworking site. Could someone repost the article?

Stras · 03-14-2012, 20:16

So, sideburns no lower than the top of the ear.. I'm reading "no sideburns" here.

Males clean shaven on and off duty. I'm reading "no mustaches" here..

Yep.. that will clean up the army and make them shine in garrison..

Next thing you know we'll be starching our ACUs and having courtesy patrols for Sergeants Time.

Mr Furious · 03-14-2012, 20:30

Prine's site appears to be down, so I can't view the article right at the moment.

It does look as if the SMA's facebook page has been getting some inquiries about the pending changes that are being staffed.

(a couple screen captures attached)

scooter · 03-14-2012, 20:44

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Originally Posted by Stras

So, sideburns no lower than the top of the ear.. I'm reading "no sideburns" here.

Males clean shaven on and off duty. I'm reading "no mustaches" here..

Yep.. that will clean up the army and make them shine in garrison..

Next thing you know we'll be starching our ACUs and having courtesy patrols for Sergeants Time.

Yup, if you let the little violations go, bigger ones are sure to follow. I'll bet that family murdering SOB in Afghanistan was one of them fellas that used TWO STRAPS on his backpack. Wasn't a black one either, it was BROWN. I'm telling you, this tattoo'd belt-less rabble needs the whip!