Georgetown Univ./Birth control

[cbtengr]

http://cnsnews.com/news/article/dems...ights-argument

It costs nearly $47,000.00 per year in tuition to attend the Georgetown Law school, I guess that just doesn't leave any money for birth control. This student activist knew that when she was accepted at the school she would not be eligible for birth control under her student health care policy, but she chose to attend anyway. (Its a Catholic School) After all she would be attending a top rated law school which was a priority of hers. Of course we all know that the dems think that we should be providing birth control on demand free of charge to all who want it. Personally I do not see it that way, but my wife had the following suggestion we start a fund to get Ms. Fluke sterilized thus alleviating her need for birth control. Our government has gone fucking nuts. I know I am singing to the choir..........................

[chance]

" Fluke testified. "One told us about how embarrassed and just powerless she felt when she was standing at the pharmacy counter and learned for the first time that contraception was not covered on her insurance and she had to turn and walk away because she couldn’t afford that prescription. Women like her have no choice but to go without contraception."

WOW!!! Then maybe she should learn how to tell her F@#k buddy to put on a condom.

[Sigaba]

Was the unnamed student in question using birth control just as a contraceptive or was she taking the pill for some of its medical side effects?

Does the fact that we may disagree with a fellow American's POV justify calls for her forced sterilization?

[MR2]

Ok, explain to me why giving birth control to "dems" is a bad idea?

[The Reaper]

Originally Posted by Sigaba

Was the unnamed student in question using birth control just as a contraceptive or was she taking the pill for some of its medical side effects?

Does the fact that we may disagree with a fellow American's POV justify calls for her forced sterilization?

I think the issue is that she seems to think it should be a right.

She would require others to pay for her choices. Which is what this administration wants.

I guess I missed that in the Bill of Rights.

TR

[John_Chrichton]

Originally Posted by Sigaba

Does the fact that we may disagree with a fellow American's POV justify calls for her forced sterilization?

Well, that would provide a permanent, lasting solution to her issues.

But in all seriousness, her argument is nonsense. Why must we restructure the entirety of our healthcare system to provide for her vision of "reproductive rights"?

She should have known, before choosing to attend Georgetown, what the University's healthcare plan entailed. If she wasn't satisfied, then she should have a). gone to a different school which offers a healthcare plan that meets her "needs" b). gotten a job and paid for her own healthcare plan, or c) the most obvious of all--make the dudes she's mackin' put on a condom

This is just another Democratic ploy to win over support for their latest Quixotic socialist monstrosity.

[DevilSide]

She can't pay for her own birth control? Condoms are like $3-$5, and I imagine the pills can't be that much different, it's not surgery.

[Sigaba]

Originally Posted by The Reaper

I think the issue is that she seems to think it should be a right.

She would require others to pay for her choices. Which is what this administration wants.

I guess I missed that in the Bill of Rights.

TR

To me, thanks to my public education at a lefty university, it is important to remember that many women consider access to birth control to be a core issue, not just as a contraceptive or because of its other medical uses, but as a symbol of individual freedom from patriarchy.

I believe that there are ways to discuss issues of women's reproduction, and the government's proper role in health care, without resorting to "jokes" that might activate the underlying symbolism and widen the gender gap.

IMO, 2008 presented a missed opportunity for the GOP. The Democratic Party's treatment of Senator Clinton and Governor Palin opened the eyes of many women. However, because of the gender gap, we weren't in the best possible position to welcome more women under the "big tent."

More generally, I think this issue is another example of the Democrats using hot button issues to change the debate as we head towards the general election.

My $0.02.

[cbtengr]

Originally Posted by John_Chrichton

Well, that would provide a permanent, lasting solution to her issues.

She should have known, before choosing to attend Georgetown, what the University's healthcare plan entailed. If she wasn't satisfied, then she should have a). gone to a different school which offers a healthcare plan that meets her "needs" b). gotten a job and paid for her own healthcare plan, or c) the most obvious of all--make the dudes she's mackin' put on a condom

This is just another Democratic ploy to win over support for their latest Quixotic socialist monstrosity.

From what I can gather she knew she would not be covered, she wanted to challenge the policy and felt that exceptions should be made for her and those who felt like she did.

http://themadjewess.com/2012/02/29/g...birth-control/

Fluke said she chose to go to law school at Georgetown because it offers a quality education, but she also expected the school to accommodate students who do not share the Catholic belief that contraceptives, abortifacients, and sterilization are immoral.

She is getting her 15 minutes of fame thanks to Nancy, she will make the perfect politician someday, its obvious she only wants to help others.

[John_Chrichton]

Originally Posted by cbtengr

From what I can gather she knew she would not be covered, she wanted to challenge the policy and felt that exceptions should be made for her and those who felt like she did.

http://themadjewess.com/2012/02/29/g...birth-control/

Fluke said she chose to go to law school at Georgetown because it offers a quality education, but she also expected the school to accommodate students who do not share the Catholic belief that contraceptives, abortifacients, and sterilization are immoral.

She is getting her 15 minutes of fame thanks to Nancy, she will make the perfect politician someday, its obvious she only wants to help others.

Right, what she wants to do is pretty clear. However, that doesn't change the core issue at hand in this debate.

[cbtengr]

Originally Posted by Sigaba

To me, thanks to my public education at a lefty university, it is important to remember that many women consider access to birth control to be a core issue, not just as a contraceptive or because of its other medical uses, but as a symbol of individual freedom from patria

My $0.02.

I would be the last person that would deny her or any woman access to birth control, the issue I have is that she, a person that does not seem to be liberated enough to supply her own birth control would expect others to supply hers through health insurance. Maybe getting that first rate law degree is not worth having to put up with such second class insurance, she needs to make that call. When do the give aways end ? What is her personal responsibilty in regards to her own birth control?

[Penn]

1. Why is it that men get to decide what women can, and can not do?

2. as for the government giving money out to the undeserving....

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2012-0...zra-klein.html

[plato]

Originally Posted by Sigaba

To me, thanks to my public education at a lefty university, it is important to remember that many women consider access to birth control to be a core issue, not just as a contraceptive or because of its other medical uses, but as a symbol of individual freedom from patriarchy.

My $0.02.

There's a liberal phrase twist in there, though, that's much more disconcerting when the MSM performs that particular gymnastic, rather than simply a liberal presenting their POV. I'm still hoping to find a reporter here and there who has lost his agenda and simply reports the facts.

If I wait outside MacDonalds, with $20 in my pocket, hoping for someone to come along and pay for my Big Mac and fries, have I been deprived of "Big Mac access", if I don't find a patron?

I understand the "make someone else pay for it" concept. But, as someone who pays several $K for family medical deductibles each year, I don't feel that I "have been denied access" to medical care.

Of course, if my neighbor has to pay for my care out of his pocket, or the customers of my employer have to pay for it out of their pocket, it's called "free". That's an equally disconcerting misnomer.

[BOfH]

Originally Posted by Penn

1. Why is it that men get to decide what women can, and can not do?

2. as for the government giving money out to the undeserving....

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2012-0...zra-klein.html

That was an interesting read, thanks Penn

Maybe this is part of the plan to get everyone into college, as the POTUS wishes. Lots of sex and free birth control.

I'm waiting for the day when firearms are free as well. Which line do I get in for those???