02-27-2012, 06:12
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What is going on with the Nobel Peace Prize
I can not believe it. The nobel Peace Committee has nominated Bradley Manning for the NPP.
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Bill Clinton, Kohl, EU among 231 Nobel candidates
AFP – 1 hr 50 mins ago
A total of 231 nominees are up for the Nobel Peace Prize this year, the Nobel Institute said Monday, with Bill Clinton, Helmut Kohl, the EU and US soldier and WikiLeaks suspect Bradley Manning known to be on the list.
"As always, there are the usual 'nominees' and some newcomers, some famous and some unknowns, hailing from the four corners of the world," the head of the Nobel Institute, Geir Lundestad, told AFP.
With 188 individuals and 43 organisations, the number of candidates comes close to last year's record of 241, when the prestigious award went to Liberian President Ellen Johnson Sirleaf, Liberian activist Leymah Gbowee, and Yemeni "Arab Spring" activist Tawakkol Karman.
Thousands of people are eligible to submit nominations, including members of parliaments and governments worldwide, university professors, past laureates and members of several international institutes, who had until February 1 to propose candidates.
The Nobel Institute keeps the names of nominees secret for 50 years, but those who are entitled to nominate are allowed to reveal the name of the person or organisation they have proposed.
Among the people known to have been nominated for this year's prize are former US president Bill Clinton, ex-German chancellor Helmut Kohl who led his country's reunification process, and Ukraine's ex-premier and now jailed opposition leader Yulia Tymoshenko.
Also on the list is jailed US soldier Manning, who has been charged with 22 counts in a US military court for turning over a massive cache of classified US documents to anti-secrecy site WikiLeaks.
Despite its current crisis the European Union is also among the candidates, as are Congolese doctor Denis Mukwege, Cuban dissidents Oswaldo Paya and Yoani Sanchez, and Russian rights group Memorial and its founder Svetlana Gannushkina.
Yet others include US political scientist Gene Sharp, known for his theory of non-violent resistance which inspired some of the key figures behind the Arab Spring, Tunisian President Moncef Marzouki who was brought to power in 2011 by the revolution in his country, and television news channel Al-Jazeera.
The winner or winners will be announced in October.
http://news.yahoo.com/bill-clinton-k...101242673.html
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02-27-2012, 06:26
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It is totally believable. They gave it to Obama for doing nothing. after that anything is possible.
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02-27-2012, 06:33
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I submitted TS's name for the culinary prize,, but was told Paula Dean nix'd it as he doesn't use enough butter..
Seriously,, I think if you look at prior lists, you will find that every year the most outrageous "15 minutes of fame" boob gets nominated.
Mohandas Gandhi was nominated in 1937, 1938, 1939, 1947 and, finally, a few days before his death in January 1948,, but didn't get picked.
Al Gore got it the 1st time...
I see no value in an award that is so politicized by the left as to be useless..
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02-27-2012, 06:37
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It is totally believable. They gave it to Obama for doing nothing. after that anything is possible.
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And the fact that they gave the award to Obama discredits the Nobel awards for me entirely, and tarnishes the accomplishments of those who received the award before him.
How in the hell does someone like Manning get put on this list?!
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02-27-2012, 08:25
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The Nobel Peace Prize has been rife with liberal politics for quite awhile...
The Nobel Prize for Physiology or Medicine (in my opinion), has been, and still is an award worthy of the name, one notable exception being Moniz for prefrontal leucotomy.
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02-27-2012, 09:01
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From the article, "Thousands of people are eligible to submit nominations, including members of parliaments and governments worldwide, university professors, past laureates and members of several international institutes, who had until February 1 to propose candidates."
The commitee itself does not decide who is nominated and who is not. All it takes is a liberal Political Science professor who views Manning as a "freedom fighter".
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02-27-2012, 14:04
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I cannot believe it. The Nobel Peace Committee has nominated Bradley Manning for the NPP./Quote/SF BHT
Sounds like an oxymoron to me.............  
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02-27-2012, 16:17
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Yes it is Big Teddy. That is why I wanted people to know he was nominated....
When the Big O got his I lost any respect for that institution.
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02-27-2012, 18:55
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Originally Posted by CDG
From the article, "Thousands of people are eligible to submit nominations, including members of parliaments and governments worldwide, university professors, past laureates and members of several international institutes, who had until February 1 to propose candidates."
The commitee itself does not decide who is nominated and who is not. All it takes is a liberal Political Science professor who views Manning as a "freedom fighter".
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Still, this demonstrates that there is something wrong with the process.
For example, for the Nobel Prize in Chemistry, the Royal Swedish Academy of Sciences takes nominations from its own members, from past Nobel Laureates in Chemistry, and from select professors of chemistry. Similar processes apply to other science awards.
The Norwegian Nobel Committee, by contrast, takes nominations from: - Members of national assemblies and governments of states;
- Members of international courts;
- University rectors; professors of social sciences, history, philosophy, law and theology; directors of peace research institutes and foreign policy institutes;
- Persons who have been awarded the Nobel Peace Prize;
- Board members of organizations who have been awarded the Nobel Peace Prize;
- Active and former members of the Norwegian Nobel Committee;
- Former advisers appointed by the Norwegian Nobel Institute.
Source: http://www.nobelprize.org/nobel_priz...ce/nomination/
In other words, the Royal Swedish Academy of Sciences takes nominations from people who are usually subject-matter experts in their fields (even the Nobel Prize in Literature, while obviously more subjective a field than Physics or Chemistry, requires some background in literature to make a nomination).
By contrast, the Norwegian Nobel Committee's standard of what makes one a subject-matter expert in "Peace" is a little overbroad and subjective, to say the least.
It is almost as if the process is designed for "garbage in/garbage out" and thus you are lucky if the committee manages to ever get it right and find a real deserving treasure among all the trash.
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02-27-2012, 19:58
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Bradley can used the money for K-Y jelly in prison and he will not be going to Norway to collect.
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02-27-2012, 21:08
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Yes it is Big Teddy. That is why I wanted people to know he was nominated....
When the Big O got his I lost any respect for that institution.
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I lost respect for the organization many years ago.
2007 - Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC) , Albert Arnold (Al) Gore Jr.
2004 - Wangari Maathai
2002 - Jimmy Carter
1994 - Yasser Arafat
1992 - Rigoberta Menchu Tum
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02-27-2012, 21:13
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Well I hope that treasonous little bastard is hanged before he could be presented the "award". Although, judging by its historical recipients, he wouldn't be entirely out of place in the line up.
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02-27-2012, 21:49
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Originally Posted by Airbornelawyer
Still, this demonstrates that there is something wrong with the process.
For example, for the Nobel Prize in Chemistry, the Royal Swedish Academy of Sciences takes nominations from its own members, from past Nobel Laureates in Chemistry, and from select professors of chemistry. Similar processes apply to other science awards.
The Norwegian Nobel Committee, by contrast, takes nominations from: - Members of national assemblies and governments of states;
- Members of international courts;
- University rectors; professors of social sciences, history, philosophy, law and theology; directors of peace research institutes and foreign policy institutes;
- Persons who have been awarded the Nobel Peace Prize;
- Board members of organizations who have been awarded the Nobel Peace Prize;
- Active and former members of the Norwegian Nobel Committee;
- Former advisers appointed by the Norwegian Nobel Institute.
Source: http://www.nobelprize.org/nobel_priz...ce/nomination/
In other words, the Royal Swedish Academy of Sciences takes nominations from people who are usually subject-matter experts in their fields (even the Nobel Prize in Literature, while obviously more subjective a field than Physics or Chemistry, requires some background in literature to make a nomination).
By contrast, the Norwegian Nobel Committee's standard of what makes one a subject-matter expert in "Peace" is a little overbroad and subjective, to say the least.
It is almost as if the process is designed for "garbage in/garbage out" and thus you are lucky if the committee manages to ever get it right and find a real deserving treasure among all the trash.
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Completely agree. As others have already said, the Nobel Committee is not undeserving of being castigated for some of their choices of recipient. However, the specific case of Bradley Manning being nominated is something they do not have control over. That being said, I would not be surprised in the least to learn that no one on the committee objects to his nomination.
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02-27-2012, 22:15
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Whats the difference between the winner of the 1978 Nobel Peace Prize winner and the 2012 Nobel Peace prize winner?
............Thats what I say: whats the f##king difference !!
I worry more about the consistency of my stool than who gets one of those trophies.
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03-01-2012, 13:13
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The Nobel Peace Prize has been rife with liberal politics for quite awhile...
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Exactly!
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