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Old 02-26-2012, 17:06   #1
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Penn Judge: Muslims Allowed to Attack People for Insulting Mohammad

This judge needs to be reprimanded, dis-bared, and Jailed....


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COMMENTARY | Jonathon Turley, a law professor at George Washington University, reports on a disturbing case in which a state judge in Pennsylvania threw out an assault case involving a Muslim attacking an atheist for insulting the Prophet Muhammad.

Judge Mark Martin, an Iraq war veteran and a convert to Islam, threw the case out in what appears to be an invocation of Sharia law.

The incident occurred at the Mechanicsburg, Pa., Halloween parade where Ernie Perce, an atheist activist, marched as a zombie Muhammad. Talaag Elbayomy, a Muslim, attacked Perce, and he was arrested by police.

Judge Martin threw the case out on the grounds that Elbayomy was obligated to attack Perce because of his culture and religion.

Judge Martin stated that the First Amendment of the Constitution does not permit people to provoke other people. He also called Perce, the plaintiff in the case, a "doofus."

In effect, Perce was the perpetrator of the assault, in Judge Martin's view, and Elbayomy the innocent. The Sharia law that the Muslim attacker followed trumped the First Amendment.

Words almost fail.

The Washington Post recently reported on an appeals court decision to maintain an injunction to stop the implementation of an amendment to the Oklahoma state constitution that bans the use of Sharia law in state courts. The excuse the court gave was that there was no documented case of Sharia law being invoked in an American court. Judge Martin would seem to have provided that example, which should provide fodder for the argument as the case goes through the federal courts.

The text of the First Amendment could not be clearer. "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof-" It does not say "unless somebody, especially a Muslim, is angered." Indeed Judge Martin specifically decided to respect the establishment of a religion, in this case Islam.

That Judge Martin should be removed from the bench and severely sanctioned goes almost without saying. He clearly had no business hearing the case in the first place, since he seems to carry an emotional bias. He also needs to retake a constitutional law course. Otherwise, a real can of worms has been opened up, permitting violence against people exercising free speech.

It should be noted that another atheist, dressed as a Zombie Pope, was marching beside the Zombie Muhammad. No outraged Catholics attacked him.

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Old 02-26-2012, 17:10   #2
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Absolutely..... My cajun son-in-law would know how to deal with him that's for sure....

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Old 02-26-2012, 17:12   #3
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Some good ol' boys might go show that judge about THEIR culture.
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Old 02-26-2012, 17:14   #4
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WAIT! Wait a minute....

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Trumps the 1st amendment


Get outta town. This is outrageous!
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Old 02-26-2012, 17:40   #5
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This Judge should be immediately impeached, and possibly charged with obstruction of justice.

The victim was denied due process and equal protection under the law due to religious bias. If you changed (muslim) to (anything else) in the article, there would be no end to the outrage.
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Old 02-26-2012, 20:33   #6
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This should be an example to the federal appeals court who struck down the Oklahoma ballot initiative barring courts from implementing sharia law. Liberals ridiculed the statute, arguing that there is no risk of American courts drawing on sharia...., guess they were wrong Huh???


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Old 02-26-2012, 23:30   #7
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No problem here, America. Just move along and keep tolerating...
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Old 02-27-2012, 05:05   #8
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Nothin to see here...
move along...
lets go sir, holdin up traffic...
move along.....
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Old 02-27-2012, 09:47   #9
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Gleaning as much as I could from the internet, I think this judge made the correct legal decision.
So?? I can go and beat the Shiite out of the Westboro Baptist Church peoples when they picket military funerals because they OFFEND me??

Need more data points to compute a firing solution??

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Old 02-27-2012, 10:14   #10
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So?? I can go and beat the Shiite out of the Westboro Baptist Church peoples when they picket military funerals because they OFFEND me??

Need more data points to compute a firing solution??

I think you are on to something!! Open season on WBC!!!
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Old 02-27-2012, 10:22   #11
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So?? I can go and beat the Shiite out of the Westboro Baptist Church peoples when they picket military funerals because they OFFEND me??

Need more data points to compute a firing solution??

Again,I'm in total support of JJ........ Waiting to hear more from you lawyers and judges out there...........

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Old 02-27-2012, 10:32   #12
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JJ, go beyond just the inflammatory way the media has of reporting things...you have to look at what actually went down,
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It also means the State has to prove its case beyond a reasonable doubt. All that the prosecution offered was:

LEO's testimony, based completely on hearsay, as he never saw the incident
Perce's testimony
Elbayomy's testimony


In a he said/she said case, prosecution loses. There was some talk about a video that was kept out of evidence, but not enough to ascertain why.
Point taken,, So,, If no LEO's or MSM's are watching/recording, Westboro Baptist Church peoples is gonna take a lick'n..

I presume it's the same logic,, he say - she say,, if they can still talk??

Thanks..
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Old 02-27-2012, 11:25   #13
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I'm still trying to figure out how Perce has no witnesses to this attack which presumably happened in a crowd of people....I dunno, something about this whole thing doesn't pass the smell test.


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I'm still trying to figure out how Perce has no witnesses to this attack which presumably happened in a crowd of people....I dunno, something about this whole thing doesn't pass the smell test.
I don't know - but I do know we have a thread running about an old WW II vet who had to crawl through a parking lot because nobody would help him.

How many of the dozens of people who witness a car accident wil stop and be a witness - or just keep walking/driving?
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Old 02-27-2012, 12:00   #15
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I have to assume it's still legal for people to defend themselves when attacked.

What would happen if a group of muslims were insulted, starting the brawl, and a counter-attack ensued (perhaps from a numerically larger group)?
Would it be considered a "set-up" and people would be denied their right to self-defense?
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