Two More US Soldiers Killed in Kabul

[Don]

Another shooting. This one in the Interior Ministry in Kabul. This can turn really bad real quick.

http://www.cnn.com/2012/02/25/world/...html?hpt=hp_t3

[afchic]

I am beginning to think it is time to pull out of there with the caveat that if another attempt against the US homeland is made and those responsible were trained in Afghanistan, we will not hesitate to turn Afghanistan into a glass parking lot. It is a piece of dirt that will not grow anything, and it is abundantly obvious the people like being enslaved. It is worthless and if gone, no one would miss it.

But maybe I am just jaded.

[Kyobanim]

Originally Posted by afchic

I am beginning to think it is time to pull out of there with the caveat that if another attempt against the US homeland is made and those responsible were trained in Afghanistan, we will not hesitate to turn Afghanistan into a glass parking lot. It is a piece of dirt that will not grow anything, and it is abundantly obvious the people like being enslaved. It is worthless and if gone, no one would miss it.

But maybe I am just jaded.

100% agree with you. That shit hole has no redeeming qualities that are worth 1 US life.

[greenberetTFS]

Originally Posted by afchic

I am beginning to think it is time to pull out of there with the caveat that if another attempt against the US homeland is made and those responsible were trained in Afghanistan, we will not hesitate to turn Afghanistan into a glass parking lot. It is a piece of dirt that will not grow anything, and it is abundantly obvious the people like being enslaved. It is worthless and if gone, no one would miss it.

But maybe I am just jaded.

afchic

Nope,your right we ought to get out of there ASAP....... Not one more American soldier should have to die there for these people who after almost 10 years of attempting to rid them of the taliban,they are so damn quick to turn on us and want to kill soldiers who are there to protect them..........

Big Teddy

[Iraqgunz]

The 3rd day of riots our compund was attacked and it was hairy. MOI shooiting happened just as we were headed out to pick up some people. Everything was locked down and another team was able to get them.

I agree with everyone else. We need to pull the hell out of here and leave these people to rot.

[2018commo]

We are about to spend millions shutting the place down. Perhaps when the choppers shuttle our folks to airfields, we bip the FOBs and the airlift begins, these nitwits will get the point.

[SF_BHT]

Originally Posted by afchic

I am beginning to think it is time to pull out of there with the caveat that if another attempt against the US homeland is made and those responsible were trained in Afghanistan, we will not hesitate to turn Afghanistan into a glass parking lot. It is a piece of dirt that will not grow anything, and it is abundantly obvious the people like being enslaved. It is worthless and if gone, no one would miss it.

But maybe I am just jaded.

It grows Poppies but who needs them.... You can not eat them which is what they need. Piece of shit country....

[PedOncoDoc]

Originally Posted by 2018commo

We are about to spend millions shutting the place down. Perhaps when the choppers shuttle our folks to airfields, we bip the FOBs and the airlift begins, these nitwits will get the point.

It's a shame we don't reallocate the funds that were otherwise going to the country to get our troops out of there, then cut 'em off completely.

[kgoerz]

Too many powerful people are making a lot of money off this war. Funny how the Afghan war is hardly mentioned in the debates. Guess there are more important issues like Gay marriage. Romney promised to restore the American promise to it's Citizens...WTF is that.

[Longstreet]

Jayson here and I found this article pertaining to the event. I am glad that for the most part Canada has pulled out and hope that the remaining Allies do the same.


The National Post Feb 24, 2012

Lorne Gunter: Koran riots prove it’s time to quit Afghanistan

It’s time to quit Afghanistan. The deadly riots over the burning of Korans at the NATO airbase at Bagram prove that Western forces have accomplished about as much as they can to civilize the place (which isn’t as much as many of us had hoped) and now it’s time to go. No apologies for the burnt holy books. No charges against the soldiers involved, as demanded by Afghan President Hamid Karzai. Just pull up stakes and leave and let those screaming and shouting their hatred for America and the West fend for themselves under the next Taliban government.
Yes, I have supported our mission there – Canada’s and NATO’s, both. I was particularly keen on the security aspect. If we could prevent Afghanistan from falling back into the hands of the Taliban and their masters in the Pakistani security and intelligence service, it was worth it to keep the country from being used again as a staging base for al Qaeda’s plots against Western targets.

But al Qaeda has moved on. It now operates largely out of east Africa and Yemen. The underwear bomber and the bombs hidden in photocopier cartridges on flights bound for the U.S. were plots that both originated in Yemen, as were the Times Square bomber and the Fort Hood shooter. Afghanistan’s importance in the West’s own security is greatly diminished. Keeping an eye on terrorists there could be done by intelligence agents and drones and any threats could be eliminated by drones and special forces.

The huge and outraged protests over the Koran burnings, though, show that all the reconstruction and training we are doing is having little lasting impact. The Afghans are as wildly fanatical and as far from democracy as they were a decade ago, or nearly so.

That is to take nothing away from our efforts or from the sacrifice of Canadian soldiers, diplomats and aid workers who have done their damnedest to bring pluralistic valuse, civil society and freedom to the Afghan people. Nor am I denying that if we leave, things will get worse for many Afghans, particularly women. Rather, our own selfish security interests there are very small now and the amount of time and treasure it would take to lift Afghanistan from where it is now up into the civilized world makes the continued effort unwise.

Do any of the rioters know or care why the Korans were burned? They weren’t torched out of disrespect for Islam, although I’m sure that’s what the popular belief is. Taliban detainees at the Bagram base were using the holy books to pass messages back and forth amongst themselves about escape attempts and violence against their guards. As near as I understand Muslim reverence for the Koran, defacng a Koran by writing in it – especially messages of violence – is as great a defilement of Islam’s scriptures as burning the book would be. But have any of the rioters gotten hung up on that point?

And where were the fanatics three years ago when the U.S. military burned Bibles? Yes, Christian Bibles were incinerated by the U.S. army in Afghanistan in 2009. The Bibles, printed in Afghanistan’s two most popular languages, were sent by a church in the States in hopes they would be distributed to Afghan civilians. But military commanders ordered them burned rather than give Muslims the impression NATO forces where there to convert them to Christianity.

Those rioting over the burning of Korans in 2012 likely didn’t give the Americans any props for their respect for Islam back then.

Why are Americans and others laying down their lives when Western security is no longer an issue in Afghanistan and so much of the population is clearly unreformable. Seriously, how many centuries has it been since Christians would have rioted over the burning of Bibles? Three, at least, likely more. They’re just books. It’s what’s written in them that’s important, not the objects themselves. But too many Muslims are stuck in the medieval mindset that to destroy their book is to demean their religion. Get over that, then give us a call. Maybe we’ll come back.

We have done what we can to save Afghanistan from itself. Let’s now leave those firebombing Western bases and killing Western troops to their own devices.

[2018commo]

Originally Posted by SF_BHT

It grows Poppies but who needs them.... You can not eat them which is what they need. Piece of shit country....

"Let them eat poppies." It kind of sings...