2 US troops killed by Aghan soldier over koran burning.

Streck-Fu · 02-23-2012, 10:53

Was he really an Afghan soldier or just in the uniform?
Can we be done there yet?

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Afghan soldier kills two U.S. soldiers

KABUL, Afghanistan, Feb. 23 (UPI) -- An Afghan soldier, apparently angry over the burning of Korans at a U.S. air base, fatally shot two U.S. troops and wounded four others, Afghan officials said.

The International Security Assistance Force said in a statement two military personnel were killed in eastern Afghanistan Thursday by "an individual wearing an Afghan National Army uniform" but didn't identify the troops' nationality.

CBS News said an Afghan official said the dead and wounded in the attack in the eastern province of Ningarhar were American. The official said the shooting seemed to be motivated by the burning of Korans at the Bagram Air Base north of Kabul, but did not elaborate.

afchic · 02-23-2012, 11:18

I have a young family member over there right now as an MP. He spends most of his time outside the wire. My entire family is worried sick about him with all this going on. Please keep him, and the rest of our troops, in your prayers.

What happens over here when a Bible is burned? I wouldn't know because the aftermath has never been large enough to warrant world news coverage.

Streck-Fu · 02-23-2012, 11:24

A trial? Surely NATO would not actually agree.....

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(Reuters) - Afghanistan wants NATO to put on public trial those who burned copies of the Koran at a NATO base, President Hamid Karzai's office said on Thursday, after a third day of bloody protests over the incident.

It said NATO had agreed to a trial, but that could not be immediately confirmed.

Karzai had earlier accused a U.S. officer of "ignorantly" burning copies of the Koran, in an incident that has deepened anti-Western sentiment in a country NATO is trying to stabilize before foreign combat troops leave by the end of 2014.

Demonstrations have drawn thousands of angry Afghans to the streets, chanting "Death to America!" amid violence that has killed 11 people including two U.S. service personnel.

"NATO officials, in response to a request for the trial and punishment of the perpetrators ... promised this crime will brought to court as soon as possible," Karzai's office said in a statement.

Tweeder11 · 02-23-2012, 11:27

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Originally Posted by afchic

I have a young family member over there right now as an MP. He spends most of his time outside the wire. My entire family is worried sick about him with all this going on. Please keep him, and the rest of our troops, in your prayers.

Will do.

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Originally Posted by afchic

What happens over here when a Bible is burned?

http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/ticket/o...152220870.html

I don't know, but the president certainly doesn't apologize for it like he did for this. According to what I've read, we followed SOP by burning belongings of EPWs, WHY anyone had to know we burned them is beyond me and not anyone else's concern.

IF they protested peacefully, then ok issue an apology for damaged feelings of the "innocent people". They Killed two Americans SO FAR as a result of their protesting... a boot in the ass is more appropriate IMHO.

Support your troops from the top down, my$.02.

Thanks,
Tweeder

JimP · 02-23-2012, 14:24

that brings to 112 sailors/soldiers/airmen/marines who have been shot or killed by our so-called "allies" in that country. Great....

Horned Frog · 02-23-2012, 14:31

If the troops who burned this Koran are to be put on trial, what governing body is to oversee and judge? What crime have the troops committed that they can be tried for?

Destrier · 02-23-2012, 15:53

Our POTUS has possibly never heard of Black Jack Pershing.

grigori · 02-24-2012, 10:14

May the brave soldiers RIP.

Whenever I read incident's like this I am reminded of an interview given by an ex-Spetsnaz soldier who served in A'stan he said one thing that somehow no I agree to very much,this is the question he was asked and this is what he(Andrei) answered:

SP: What will be the greatest threat U.S. Special Forces will have to face in Afghanistan ?
Andrei: The same that we had, the same thing. First you have to realize where their allegiance lies, when you come over their with a smile and hand out chocolate bars to their children you do not necessarily buy their loyalty. You have to realize that their loyalty lies with Allah. You are not Muslim so you are infidel. Taliban is Muslim, so they are their brother. So that is what they have to realize. Their food droppings they are doing now is not going to buy them nothing. These people have to realize these people have been at war at for 20 years. They have seen everybody, the Brit's, the Russians, everybody. The biggest thing will be the treachery. They'll smile, take your candy bar, and say thank you very much good ol Americans. Then when you leave the village they'll tell the local Taliban leader where you went, how many people, how you're armed, and so on and so on. So they ambush you.

It is very sad that people in that world compare US forces to the Soviets when infact all the Soviets did was destroy and leave a big mess for the world to clean up.The ISAF forces liberated the Afghans from all the maniacs,improved infrastructure and modernizing the country and this is what the Afghans do in the end-kill the very people who are helping you move towards a better tomorrow risking their today.

glebo · 02-24-2012, 15:53

grigori, I suspect the comrad is correct.

RIP to the fallen.

**Pete** · 02-24-2012, 16:31

Pentagon apologizes at local mosque for Quran burning

http://www.wjla.com/articles/2012/02...ing-72999.html

"STERLING, Va. (AP) - A senior Pentagon official is apologizing to Washington-area Muslims for the burning of Qurans at a military base in Afghanistan..........."

I really want to say something but I'm at a loss for words.

Sigaba · 02-24-2012, 16:34

FWIW, the West coast version of the NBC nightly news suggested that the Afghan soldier killed the Americans after they'd fired on protesters who were storming the compound. If accurate, this report doesn't make the Afghan soldier's actions any less deplorable, it does raise other questions.

tonyz · 02-24-2012, 16:48

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Originally Posted by Sigaba

FWIW, the West coast version of the NBC nightly news suggested that the Afghan soldier killed the Americans after they'd fired on protesters who were storming the compound. If accurate, this report doesn't make the Afghan soldier's actions any less deplorable, it does raise other questions.

Storming a compound in a war zone - not generally advisable - I suspect that one might reasonably expect to receive the sharp end.

Turning on the hand that feeds you...

Are we too trusting in the loyalties and intelligence of the Afghans involved?

abc_123 · 02-24-2012, 17:04

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Originally Posted by Pete

Pentagon apologizes at local mosque for Quran burning

http://www.wjla.com/articles/2012/02...ing-72999.html

"STERLING, Va. (AP) - A senior Pentagon official is apologizing to Washington-area Muslims for the burning of Qurans at a military base in Afghanistan..........."

I really want to say something but I'm at a loss for words.

We are losing our minds.

Hey, what is the "proper" way of disposing of a Koran anyway?

PSM · 02-24-2012, 17:29

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Originally Posted by abc_123

Hey, what is the "proper" way of disposing of a Koran anyway?

PedOncoDoc · 02-24-2012, 17:37

If we are apologizing for this act, are we stating that we believe they were justified in killing the American soldiers?

Using the same logic, can we then respond to anti-American sentiments/demonstrations with lethal force?