02-07-2012, 18:13
|
#1
|
|
Asset
Join Date: Apr 2011
Location: MI USA
Posts: 2
|
Navy SEAL Commander Advised to ‘Get the Hell Out of the Media’
Quote:
A retired general today assailed the commander of the Navy SEAL raid that killed Osama bin Laden for drawing too much media attention to operations that he argued should be kept under wraps.
Special Operations Commander Adm. Bill McRaven was confronted by retired Lt. Gen. James Vaught, who said he didn’t understand why the recent raids by the Navy SEALs, such as the one to kill Osama bin Laden or to rescue U.S. hostage Jessica Buchanan, were all over the media.
“Since the time when your wonderful team went and drug bin Laden out and got rid of him, and more recently when you went down and rescued the group in Somalia, or wherever the hell they were, they’ve been splashing all of this all over the media,” Vaught, 85, said. “I flat don’t understand that.
“Now back when my special operators extracted Saddam [Hussein] from the hole, we didn’t say one damn word about it,” he continued. “We turned him over to the local commander and told him to claim that his forces drug him out of the hole, and he did so. And we just faded away and kept our mouth shut.
“Now I’m going to tell you, one of these days, if you keep publishing how you do this, the other guy’s going to be there ready for you, and you’re going to fly in and he’s going to shoot down every damn helicopter and kill every one of your SEALs. Now, watch it happen. Mark my words. Get the hell out of the media,” he concluded, as laughter broke out at a meeting of the National Defense Industrial Association in Washington, D.C.
|
Rest can be read @ ----> http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/politics...-of-the-media/
|
|
XrayJ is offline
|
|
02-07-2012, 18:58
|
#2
|
|
Quiet Professional
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: Tennesse
Posts: 766
|
Someone failed to follow instructions.....
That's the SOCOM commander, by the way.
|
|
scooter is offline
|
|
02-07-2012, 19:04
|
#3
|
|
Consigliere
Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: Free Pineland (at last)
Posts: 8,841
|
I have assumed that the media attention has been driven by the White House, or more accurately the Obama re-election campaign. POTUS is interviewed extensively in the documentary they allowed to be made concerning the bin Laden raid.
|
|
Roguish Lawyer is offline
|
|
02-07-2012, 19:05
|
#4
|
|
Consigliere
Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: Free Pineland (at last)
Posts: 8,841
|
XRayJ, you need to fill out your profile and introduce yourself in the right place as previously instructed. Please do it before you post again.
|
|
Roguish Lawyer is offline
|
|
02-07-2012, 19:47
|
#5
|
|
Quiet Professional
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: NC for now
Posts: 2,418
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by XrayJ
|
Sounds like envy to me
__________________
Sounds like a s#*t sandwhich, but I'll fight anyone, I'm in.
|
|
kgoerz is offline
|
|
02-07-2012, 19:52
|
#6
|
|
Asset
Join Date: Apr 2011
Location: MI USA
Posts: 2
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by kgoerz
Sounds like envy to me 
|
If on topic posts by posters outside of certain cliques aren't welcome, I will more than gladly stand down.
|
|
XrayJ is offline
|
|
02-07-2012, 19:55
|
#7
|
|
Area Commander
Join Date: May 2006
Location: Raeford, NC
Posts: 3,374
|
Got a memorandum from Vaught (HQ JTF 1-79) hanging on the wall... Great man IMHO.
__________________
D-3129 Life
"If one day you decide to know yourself...you'll have to choose the warrior path...You'll reach the darkness of your spirit.... Then, if you overcome your fears....You will know who you are."
"De Oppresso Liber"
|
|
Snaquebite is offline
|
|
02-07-2012, 20:00
|
#8
|
|
Area Commander
Join Date: May 2006
Location: Raeford, NC
Posts: 3,374
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by XrayJ
If on topic posts by posters outside of certain cliques aren't welcome, I will more than gladly stand down.
|
XrayJ....to put it simply....follow the instructions you received in email when you signed up to this site...If you lost them or are confused, you may PM me for instructions. Until then DO NOT post again in this forum.
__________________
D-3129 Life
"If one day you decide to know yourself...you'll have to choose the warrior path...You'll reach the darkness of your spirit.... Then, if you overcome your fears....You will know who you are."
"De Oppresso Liber"
|
|
Snaquebite is offline
|
|
02-08-2012, 02:27
|
#9
|
|
Guerrilla Chief
Join Date: Mar 2011
Location: South Africa
Posts: 911
|
Many good units destroyed by publicity
I have been meaning to post something about this for a while. We have seen many very good units destroyed by too much media coverage in the past. This only applies to Southern Africa, and I dont mean to preach to you guys in the US, but simply to give our experience for your information. Our 32 Bn, a special; forces semi-pseudo unit which operated almost entirely behind the lines was disbanded when their exploits were endlessly publicised. They were a formidable unconventional fighting force made up of turned terrorists and soldiers from enemy countries. Because of their well publicised effectiveness in later years, they became the focus of attention for disbandment once majority rule came. This was a great loss to our Army and a huge pool of expertise was lost .
The Reconnaissance Regiment also suffered , but in a different way, from too much publicity. When it was a highly secretive unit, it was very effective and the quality of soldier it attracted was very high. After much publicity, the quality of volunteer declined markedly and all the "tough-guy riff-raff" wanted to join and it gained somewhat of a hooligan image. It was also briefly disbanded, but after lots of trimming and cuts, was re-instated as a shadow of its former self.
A very similar fate befell the Rhodesian Selous Scouts. When they were disguised at a Tracker Unit, they operated very effectively as a pseudo unit, turning terrorists and disguising themselves as terrorists and passing on intel so that other units could wipe the enemy out. Once they became subject to media attention, not only did their quality of recruit suffer, for the same reason as mentioned above, but their tactics became known to the enemy and their effectiveness declined. I have been hoping for some time that either the Seals would cease their publicity campaign or that it was a blind for other more secret units operating out of the publics eye.
|
|
Guymullins is offline
|
|
02-08-2012, 07:50
|
#10
|
|
Quiet Professional
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: 11 miles from Dove Creek, Colorady
Posts: 3,924
|
Navy SEAL Commander Advised to ‘Get the Hell Out of the Media’
ABC News
Quote:
|
Special Operations Commander Adm. Bill McRaven was confronted by retired Lt. Gen. James Vaught, who said he didn’t understand why the recent raids by the Navy SEALs, such as the one to kill Osama bin Laden or to rescue U.S. hostage Jessica Buchanan, were all over the media.
|
__________________
"...But if it be a sin to covet honour,
I am the most offending soul alive."
Shakespeare - Henry V
Lazy Bob Ranch
|
|
Utah Bob is offline
|
|
02-08-2012, 08:23
|
#11
|
|
BANNED USER
Join Date: Jan 2007
Posts: 3,751
|
"McRaven jokingly responded that he became a Navy SEAL because his sister was dating a special forces member and because he was infatuated with John Wayne’s movie, “The Green Beret.”
Maybe he's got a cameo in that new movie "staring REAL SeALs"
|
|
Dozer523 is offline
|
|
02-08-2012, 08:53
|
#12
|
|
Area Commander
Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: Western WI
Posts: 7,003
|
FYI collateral thread in Early Bird here.
|
|
Badger52 is offline
|
|
02-08-2012, 09:11
|
#13
|
|
Quiet Professional
Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: NorCal
Posts: 15,370
|
Pretty good discussion on CBS This Morning - interview w/John Miller.
http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-505263_1...flexGridModule
Richard
__________________
“Sometimes the Bible in the hand of one man is worse than a whisky bottle in the hand of (another)… There are just some kind of men who – who’re so busy worrying about the next world they’ve never learned to live in this one, and you can look down the street and see the results.” - To Kill A Mockingbird (Atticus Finch)
“Almost any sect, cult, or religion will legislate its creed into law if it acquires the political power to do so.” - Robert Heinlein
|
|
Richard is offline
|
|
02-08-2012, 09:16
|
#14
|
|
SF Candidate
Join Date: Mar 2011
Location: Tampa, Fl
Posts: 82
|
I caught this in the article...
"the Pentagon is even considering a new special operations command"
Could this be good news for CA, MISO, & SF?
Thanks
Tweeder
|
|
Tweeder11 is offline
|
|
02-08-2012, 10:27
|
#15
|
|
Quiet Professional
Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: NorCal
Posts: 15,370
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by Tweeder11
I caught this in the article...
"the Pentagon is even considering a new special operations command"
|
Speshul Feces Command - for those occasions when the s**t REALLY hits the fan!
And so it goes...
Richard
__________________
“Sometimes the Bible in the hand of one man is worse than a whisky bottle in the hand of (another)… There are just some kind of men who – who’re so busy worrying about the next world they’ve never learned to live in this one, and you can look down the street and see the results.” - To Kill A Mockingbird (Atticus Finch)
“Almost any sect, cult, or religion will legislate its creed into law if it acquires the political power to do so.” - Robert Heinlein
|
|
Richard is offline
|
|
|
Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
|
|
|
Posting Rules
|
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts
HTML code is Off
|
|
|
All times are GMT -6. The time now is 12:56.
|
|
|