Pissing on video

SPEC4 · 01-12-2012, 14:28

The outrage expressed by the media regarding the marines relieving themselves, makes me think how lucky most people are, to have lived such sheltered lives.

I have no issue with the act, war produces many unspeakable acts, this isn't one, in my opinion, the person publishing the video performed the "unspeakable act".

VAKEMP · 01-12-2012, 15:43

Do you have an article that you can reference?

I haven't heard anything about this.

EDIT:
Found it: http://www.foxnews.com/us/2012/01/11...investigation/

Quote:

Video appears to show marines urinating on bodies, sparking military investigation

Published January 11, 2012

| FoxNews.com

The U.S. Marine Corps is launching an investigation into a video that recently surfaced online showing what appears to be several Marines in uniform urinating on corpses.

kmgerhard · 01-12-2012, 15:55

The best discussion on the topic I've read to date; written by Mitchell Bell, USMC on The SandGram today.

And from Reuters.

greenlight · 01-12-2012, 16:50

Does not make me laugh - nor does it reflect well on this site to have this sort of comment placed here.

Eagle edit

That made me laugh

DevilSide · 01-12-2012, 18:18

You know, it's probably not appropriate, I wouldn't do it myself or allow my men to do it, but our opposition has done much worse, so...

kgoerz · 01-12-2012, 18:29

I was impressed that they were all able to piss in Unison. But U.S Soldiers/Marines are held to a higher standard. These Marines were weak and lowered themselves to a the standard of their Enemy. The USMC should just get rid of them. Plenty of ditch digging jobs out there.

**Roguish Lawyer** · 01-12-2012, 18:33

This has got to be a UCMJ violation, no?

alright4u · 01-12-2012, 19:10

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Originally Posted by kgoerz

I was impressed that they were all able to piss in Unison. But U.S Soldiers/Marines are held to a higher standard. These Marines were weak and lowered themselves to a the standard of their Enemy. The USMC should just get rid of them. Plenty of ditch digging jobs out there.

I know it can be tough to think when men you know were just killed, but; I recall we had about 5-6 sappers left in and around our wire in late 68 that recon killed. A month earlier, sappers got in on Sep 3, 68 just after CCN was hit hard. I had 6 dead yards then. This time they paid dearly. The bodies started smelling. It was bothering the CO's breakfast. We hauled the NVA by truck south of camp and buried them. Those men were soldiers, too.

**Eagle5US** · 01-12-2012, 19:14

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Originally Posted by SPEC4

The outrage expressed by the media regarding the marines relieving themselves, makes me think how lucky most people are, to have lived such sheltered lives.

I have no issue with the act, war produces many unspeakable acts, this isn't one, in my opinion, the person publishing the video performed the "unspeakable act".

Perhaps you are not looking at the big picture here - the retribution and hindrance of forward momentum for those teams working with the villagers on the ground. The validation of the enemies characterization of US Forces. The propaganda value that this film has provided to the bad guys is every bit as bad (if not worse) than Abu-Ghrab.

Yes, most folks do live sheltered lives. The military is at war, the public is at the mall, smart bombs must be able to be dropped in the middle of a crowded playground and kill ONLY the one bad guy who is dressed in a suit wearing the concealed explosive vest.

That, unfortunately, does not excuse this type of behavior by a PROFESSIONAL MILITARY.

Think about it...

MTN Medic · 01-12-2012, 19:51

+1 Brother.

plato · 01-12-2012, 20:42

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Originally Posted by Roguish Lawyer

This has got to be a UCMJ violation, no?

"Conduct prejudicial to good order and discipline" seems to stretch to cover everything.

PSM · 01-12-2012, 20:49

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Originally Posted by plato

"Conduct prejudicial to good order and discipline" seems to stretch to cover everything.

Gee, in my day it was OK, even encouraged, to pee on Marines. Is that wrong now?

Pat

kmgerhard · 01-12-2012, 22:00

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Originally Posted by Eagle5US

Perhaps you are not looking at the big picture here - the retribution and hindrance of forward momentum for those teams working with the villagers on the ground. The validation of the enemies characterization of US Forces. The propaganda value that this film has provided to the bad guys is every bit as bad (if not worse) than Abu-Ghrab.

Think about it...

Trust me, I have. It's the very thing that's been haunting me since it broke. The pucker factor on waiting at home for commo just got kicked up a notch.

Thank you for pointing it out; wish more were.

Spitfire34 · 01-13-2012, 02:21

I'm not surprised at all that they would piss on the bodies but it's shocking that someone decided to film it and post it on the internet. I am in no way saying that what they did is okay but at least try to keep it off the sky-line. This makes us all look bad. Just my .02

CombatMuffin · 01-13-2012, 07:25

I can't comment on the horrors of wars, and what's right and wrong in a battlefield: haven't been there.

...But we've come a long way since carrying swords around and "pillaging the village" in respect to the military. Civilized countries around the world can now field professional armies, where each individual soldier contributes a much larger role.

What shocks me the most is the amount of damage this causes to the U.S. efforts in the region (let alone Afghanistan). I am assuming a lot of good men payed a very high price to improve relationships with the locals, and this type of behavior does not seem, at least to me, to honor those efforts.

That said, it is not for me to criticize the sentiments felt out there, so I'll limit my comment this far.