12-11-2011, 23:07
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44 magnum check pictures .....ammo from China
This is from an email that's going around. Nothing on Snopes or Hoax-Slayer.
I'd like some more info on the cartridges and peek of rear casing to be sure.
Anyways for your enjoyment I present the following:
44 magnum check pictures .....ammo from China
First it was baby formula, then pet food, but now you should Watch out when buying anything from China , including bright, shiny ammunition.
A guy came into the police department the other day to ask a favor. He had a S&W 629 (.44 Mag) that he wanted to dispose of after a mishap at the range.
He said there was a loud bang when he tested his new ammo (Chinese made), and the gun smacked him in the forehead, leaving a nice gash.
When the tweety birds cleared from around his head, the pictures show what he saw.
Bet he never uses Chinese made ammo again!
Looks like when the round in the chamber went off, It also set off at least two other rounds in adjacent cylinders.
I would have hated to been the one that pulled the trigger on that one!
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12-12-2011, 05:50
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This goes back 2 maybe 3 yrs..
FAIL...
The only truth is the revolver did go boom..
I googled this topic a couple yrs ago and found this:
Quote:
quote"sorry, was driving all day today, so didnt have a pc nearby to reply with.
my smith called me and said the ammo wasn't hot loaded at all, but that the "chamber" on the #2 was at fault.
it seemed to have been cut in a conical shape, where the back of chamber was too large diameter and front was a lil too small with a small lip of extra steel hanging out into line of bullet.
maybe someone forgot to inspect? or forgot to finish the machining?
i don't know, but i've contacted S&W's online support to see what they have
to say.
Federal American Eagle 240gr "
KABOOM....Another Ouchy, S&W 629. - Page 3 - Gun & Game Forums
http://www.gunandgame.com/forums/pow...w-629-a-3.html
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Slick Willie Clinton stop all imports of Chinese ammo as retaliation for Tiananmen Square protests of 1989.
Also I don't think the ATF and US Customs has never allowed China to import 44 mag ammo.
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12-12-2011, 08:00
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Quality Control
Smith's quality control over the years has been very spotty. Once saw a nickel plated gun with a big piece of wire from a wire brush plated over on the barrel. Believe it was a model 29.
I will never own a smith and this is the reason I am hesitant to buy a U.S. version Walther. Smith once sold their big N rames in velvet lined boxes, guess it was recognition they were more suited to looking at than shooting...
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12-12-2011, 08:20
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No major X-spert here,, but I have had a doz++ Smiths, both auto's & revolvers. I have never had a problem of any sort.
Currently stable:
Smith & Wesson, Double Action 4th Model, DA, Nickel, 3.5", 32 S&W BD: ??
Smith & Wesson, Model 945PC, 45 ACP, BD: January 2000
Smith & Wesson, Model CS9S, 9mm, BD: January 2006
Smith & Wesson, Model 940-1, SS, 1.5" 9mm, BD: April 1994
Smith & Wesson, Model 60-10, SS, 3", .357 mag, BD: June 1996
Smith & Wesson, Model 629-3, SS, 5",.44 mag, BD: August 1991
Smith & Wesson, Model 625-2, SS, 5",.45 ACP, BD: July 1989
Smith & Wesson, Model 41, 5.5", .22 LR, BD: 1980, month unknown.
I only purchase pre-lock and do not collect Safe Queen's..
The 4th model 32 S&W was my g-mom's pocket companion when she would deliver g-pa's apple cider shine..
I like'm..
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12-12-2011, 10:33
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Quote:
Originally Posted by JJ_BPK
This goes back 2 maybe 3 yrs..
FAIL...
The only truth is the revolver did go boom..
I googled this topic a couple yrs ago and found this:
Slick Willie Clinton stop all imports of Chinese ammo as retaliation for Tiananmen Square protests of 1989.
Also I don't think the ATF and US Customs has never allowed China to import 44 mag ammo.
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Ok, thanks. One can never be too sure of politically motivated email these days.
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12-12-2011, 17:41
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That sure looks a lot like a bad load, like one that has way too much fast burning powder.
The other remote possibility is the reputed kaBOOM from a load that partially fills the case having the primer flame flash across the top of the powder charge giving incomplete ignition and creating a detonation instead. Either way, this is almost certainly an ammo related issue and NOT the weapon.
I do not believe that is a factory American Eagle load either, unless they made one with a serrated jacket.
Plenty of mistimed guns out there shaving and spitting lead and copper without blowing the gun up in a kB. I fired a lot of rounds through a .357 Taurus that would spit lead thrrough the barrel-cylinder gap.
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12-12-2011, 18:09
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My .44 Mag is a Ruger Super Blackhawk - not nearly as elegant as the S&W but not nearly as expensive, either, and built very sturdy.
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03-06-2012, 18:42
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Impressive photos, and another illustration of the amount of energy being harnessed and directed especially in the larger calibers.
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03-07-2012, 09:24
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Speer?
The bullet looks a lot like the Speer Gold Dot HP.
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03-07-2012, 17:16
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S&W Model 29?
The S&W cylinders on all revolvers are heat treated, the steel is also examined for porosity before the charge holes are drilled and chamfered. All of the manufacturing steps are inspected before final assembly. The chances of a defective cylinder are remote, so as TR said it is more than likely ammunition related. People that reload their own ammo sometimes push the envelope and use the wrong powder or too much of the correct powder or both; thus you can observe the results in the photos of the Model 29 with the blown cylinder. As for factory ammunition from a U S A company & made in the U S A it is also a remote chance of getting a hot load or a cracked case that would result in a catastrophic failure as seen in the photos of the Model 29. Quality control of production ammunition is set according to SAAMI standards and The National Reloading Manufactures Association....TK
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