12-01-2011, 15:40
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North Carolina’s newly revised “Castle Doctrine” takes effect today.
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”North Carolina’s new “Castle Doctrine” law, which addresses certain circumstances under which a person can legally shoot or use other deadly force against another, takes effect Thursday.
North Carolina’s current Castle Doctrine only applies to homes, but under the new law it also applies to vehicles and places of work. The Castle Doctrine, rooted in English common law, expresses the belief that one should be safe from illegal intrusion in one’s home.
The new law is much longer and clarifies when deadly force can be used.
New law more specific
The new law defines a person’s home as any property with a roof where the person lives and also includes “curtilage,” which is the area immediately around a home. It defines a person’s workplace as any property with a roof used for commercial purposes. It says a home or workplace can be temporary or permanent and specifically says either one can be a tent.
Under the new law, the lawful occupant of a home, motor vehicle or workplace isn’t required to retreat prior to using deadly force.
Read the rest of Jule Hubbard’s article at the Journal Post.
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http://www.tactical-life.com/online/...-effect-today/
READ FULL VERSION WITH EXPLANATIONS HERE:http://www.journalpatriot.com/news/a...a4bcf6878.html
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12-01-2011, 15:45
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That is good news - IMO, the castle doctrine should have never been so limited.
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12-01-2011, 16:08
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Good stuff. Mirrors Texas' rule. However, Texas goes a bit further with a very strong "criminal mischief" statute; makes for a very polite State. Perhaps NC will become a little more "kinder and gentler", (hard to be a dick to folks when you can be shot).
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12-01-2011, 16:32
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LOL, in California we follow the pussy doctrine. No guns allowed, be politically correct with the home invader, and bend over for the lawsuit when he slips and falls while robbing your house. 
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12-01-2011, 17:07
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Texas also has a law that's been on the books since the 1800s that allows you to use deadly force to protect your property after dark!!
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12-01-2011, 18:32
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Originally Posted by Roguish Lawyer
be politically correct with the home invader, and bend over for the lawsuit when he slips and falls while robbing your house. |
Like this story:
http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j...AoclKoBmzpvSnA
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12-01-2011, 19:28
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Originally Posted by Ambush Master
Texas also has a law that's been on the books since the 1800s that allows you to use deadly force to protect your property after dark!!
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As a gentle, polite reminder, Just because the law says you can do it doesn't mean it's a good idea.
Spending ~$7,000 or more to save a $500 deductible with the current crop of Dallas county juries deciding your fate is an expensive way to teach some thief a lesson. 
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12-01-2011, 19:41
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My take on the law in CA I call the shovel doctrine  |
Good idea but I wouldn't want the insult of burying them on my property. There's plenty of space out in the desert.
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12-02-2011, 07:45
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Originally Posted by Ambush Master
Texas also has a law that's been on the books since the 1800s that allows you to use deadly force to protect your property after dark!!
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Attempted arson here, even of a neighbor's house, will draw fire due to presumption of dwelling being occupied (well, maybe not in metro Milwaukee...). Assembly & Senate here just passed (bi-partisan) Castle Doctrine as well; Gov. Walker scheduled to sign 7 December.
Removes civil & criminal liability if deemed justified.
Presumption of innocence returned to its rightful place.
Ain't it funny how to be truly 'progressive' one must return to the days of yesteryear...?
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12-02-2011, 07:46
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Originally Posted by Roguish Lawyer
LOL, in California we follow the pussy doctrine. No guns allowed, be politically correct with the home invader, and bend over for the lawsuit when he slips and falls while robbing your house.
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There is a lot of truth in what you've said........  I had a buddy who lived in southern California who told me a story about a guy who fell off of a property owners roof while committing a crime..... He was severely hurt and ended up suing the owner and received 500K from a jury that felt sorry for him....... 
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12-02-2011, 08:48
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I thought in Texas,"He needed killin'" was a legal defense.
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12-02-2011, 08:52
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Originally Posted by dr. mabuse
As a gentle, polite reminder, Just because the law says you can do it doesn't mean it's a good idea.
Spending ~$7,000 or more to save a $500 deductible with the current crop of Dallas county juries deciding your fate is an expensive way to teach some thief a lesson. |
So, what deductible would you put on your life???
I'd gladly pay 7k for my life.
But, to each his own..
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12-02-2011, 09:22
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Originally Posted by dr. mabuse
As a gentle, polite reminder, Just because the law says you can do it doesn't mean it's a good idea.
Spending ~$7,000 or more to save a $500 deductible with the current crop of Dallas county juries deciding your fate is an expensive way to teach some thief a lesson. |
You could always move to Argyle.
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12-02-2011, 09:55
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LOL, in California we follow the pussy doctrine. No guns allowed, be politically correct with the home invader, and bend over for the lawsuit when he slips and falls while robbing your house. |
Believe it or not, NY has castle doctrine law with a reasonable stand-your-ground clause on the books: http://law.onecle.com/new-york/penal/part1.tc.a35.html, specifically 35.15 and 35.20. Unfortunately, after Goetz combined NY's fast and loose tort laws, you probably won't escape unscathed if you do employ deadly force to defend your family and premises.
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12-02-2011, 10:18
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Originally Posted by mark46th
I thought in Texas,"He needed killin'" was a legal defense.
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I am in the library studying for finals, and I laughed so loud when I read that! I got some strange looks from people. It reminded me of something my grandpa would say. Haha
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