11-15-2011, 08:33
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Guerrilla
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Book on UBL raid by former Team Six member a fabrication
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11-15-2011, 08:48
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Has it come to this?
Has it come to this?
Tit for tat in the press over Secret, well, maybe not so Secret Operations.
Just wait for the movie and the public will know the truth.
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11-15-2011, 08:52
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The former SEAL who wrote this is also the one who wrote and consulted for the movie Navy Seals staring Charlie Sheen.....
He is not very well thought of in the SEAL community from what a few of my friends have said.
Pete
Hope the movie is better than the last one..... This time Charlie will be the JSOC Commander
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11-15-2011, 21:52
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Originally Posted by SF_BHT
Hope the movie is better than the last one..... This time Charlie will be the JSOC Commander 
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Epic winning!
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11-16-2011, 09:59
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He refused to describe how it was related to the raid, saying the contracts are classified.
Pfarrer frequently claims that his accounts come from a top secret world, and that a reader must take his word on faith.
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Any time an author uses the above words to cover something, plus gets so many basic facts wrong about unrelated incidents, it definitely makes me want to throw the BS flag.
Why does he need the profits from this book to cover his medical bills? Does he not have access to VA?
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11-16-2011, 10:46
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In a rare on-the-record interview, the U.S. military is refuting the revisionist account of the raid on Osama bin Laden's compound published this month by former Navy SEAL Chuck Pfarrer. The denunciation is interesting both for its attacks on Pffarrer's credibility and for what it leaves uncontested in Pfarrer's account of the May 1 Abbottabad raid.
“It’s just not true,” U.S. Special Operations Command spokesman Col. Tim Nye told the Associated Press. “It’s not how it happened.” The denunciation follows a string of media appearances Pfarrer made on Fox News, CNN and elsewhere detailing specific logistical discrepancies between the official White House narrative of the raid and what he says SEAL Team 6 members told him about the operation. Chief among them: the way the two Blackhawk helicopters swooped into the compound, the existence of a 45-minute long firefight between the SEALs and bin Laden's henchmen and the use of bin Laden's wife as a human shield.
The primary sticking point for Nye, speaking to the AP, is Pfarrer's repeated assertion that he spoke with SEALs who carried out the raid. "This is a fabrication," said Nye. “We have never come forward and gone after an author and say that is a lie,” Nye said. “That tells you how far off the mark we believe this book is.” Unfortunately, Nye does not describe what specifically Pfarrer got wrong in his account. Was it the allegations about the firefight not happening? That SEAL Team 6 shot bin Laden within 90-seconds of arriving in the compound? Or that bin Laden's wife was used as a human shield, a detail that was later retracted from the official narrative?
Instead, the challenges to Pfarrer's account come in pointing out errors in his book that don't involve the raid. The way the AP describes these errors, it's not clear if the military pointed them out or if the AP discovered them independently. Either way, they call into question the reporting in his book:
Pfarrer gets a multitude of facts wrong in describing events that are part of the public record. For instance, Pfarrer states that Obama appointed McRaven as the first Navy SEAL to head JSOC in April of this year. McRaven was actually appointed to that post in early 2008 by President George W. Bush. He states that the Army Special Forces Green Berets were established in 1962, instead of 1952. When U.S. special operations forces rehearsed for the famous Son Tay Raid in Vietnam in 1970, they trained at Eglin Air Force Base in Florida, not Offutt in Nebraska.
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11-16-2011, 10:48
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I wonder if anyone goes to jail for violating NDA's?
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