11-13-2011, 13:48
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Welcome to Kalif, please leave all "American" items and artifacts at the border
I'm going to work extra hard not to purchase anything from Kalif......
Court Backs High School in Flap Over American Flag T-Shirts
Published November 13, 2011
FoxNews.com
A California school principal did not violate the freedom of speech of a group of students who wore American flags on their shirts on Cinco de Mayo when he told them to turn the shirts inside out or go home, a federal judge has ruled.
Citing past clashes between Mexican American and Anglo students over their clothing on the Mexican holiday, Chief U.S. District Judge James Ware of San Francisco said school officials "reasonably forecast that (the shirts) could cause a substantial disruption" and were entitled to take steps to prevent it, the San Francisco Chronicle reports.
The case arose in an ethnically charged atmosphere at Live Oak High School in Morgan Hill. On the previous Cinco de Mayo, Ware said, a group of Mexican-American students walked around with a Mexican flag, and a group of Anglo students responded by hoisting a makeshift American flag up a tree, chanting "U-S-A" and exchanging profanities and threats with the Latino youths.
While the Supreme Court has ruled that public school students have the right to engage in nondisruptive free speech, that ruling "does not require that school officials wait until disruption occurs before they act," Ware said in his ruling Tuesday dismissing the students' lawsuit, according to the paper.
Mark Posard, a lawyer for the Morgan Hill Unified School District, said Friday that Ware's decision "affirmed that school safety is paramount."
Bill Becker, a lawyer for the youths and their parents, said they would appeal "this bizarre ruling."
Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/us/2011/11/13...#ixzz1dcHnA7y1
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11-13-2011, 14:15
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Nothing unusual at all about this ruling. Schools can limit speech a lot more than others.
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11-13-2011, 14:16
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11-13-2011, 15:11
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They already have. It was just a slow process. Ten more years and I'm heading to Idaho and free America.
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11-13-2011, 15:57
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For anybody interested in rehashing the arguments over this one...
http://www.professionalsoldiers.com/...ak+hill+school
Gutes lesen, y'all!
And so it goes...
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11-13-2011, 18:21
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They already have. It was just a slow process. Ten more years and I'm heading to Idaho and free America.
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As a fellow Californian I couldn't agre with you more. This isn't the same state that I grew up in 40 years ago. The seeds have already been planted and it's only going to get worse. I too am planning on packing my bags, I just haven't decided where yet.
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11-13-2011, 18:28
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11-13-2011, 19:05
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I'm going to work extra hard not to purchase anything from Kalif......
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As a Jr. Chef, that may be hard to do. 
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11-14-2011, 05:44
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Would this ruling also sugest that the school should prevent any displaying of the Mexican flag as well, since it sparked hostilities in the past?
How about preventing homosexual students from demonstrating on gay pride day out of fear for there safety?
This really pisses me off. 
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11-14-2011, 06:18
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Great idea! Then maybe the hotel rooms would be more affordable, not to mention restaurants!
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11-14-2011, 07:23
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My Mom's side of the family settled NorCal when it was a republic, same as my Dad's side of the family who settled in Texas when it, too, was a republic. I own the family ranch there in NorCal in the Sacramento Valley where I rent it out and visit several times a year - checking on the property and then spending time in the wine country, along the North Coast, around the Bay Area, or Sierras (skiing at Northstar-Lake Tahoe) which I can write off as a business related trip. I miss the area and we may move back there this coming year depending on how the taxes would shake out if we chose to do so. My wife just spent the weekend in Napa at the film festival with friends helping host their Gustavo-Thrace/Toolbox hospitality area and we've decided we'd like to spend our 'golden years' doing just that - maybe with Bogle over in Clarksburg along the Sacramento River and 18.2 miles from my ranch or selling the ranch and moving over around Napa with Gustavo-Thrace.
My wife and I have traveled quite a bit and y'all can say what you want, but NorCal is one place we would happily live out the rest of our lives.
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11-14-2011, 08:23
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This ranks right up there with push one for english. I can see it now, what ever you do don't show the Mexican Flag on the 4th of July. Seems to me what goes around, comes around.
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11-14-2011, 09:41
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My wife and I have traveled quite a bit and y'all can say what you want, but NorCal is one place we would happily live out the rest of our lives.
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No WAY!!! Can't own Machineguns there!!!
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11-14-2011, 10:21
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No WAY!!! Can't own Machineguns there!!! |
... Legally!
I'm not sure you can own pellet guns there... legally!
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11-14-2011, 11:06
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This thread has made the Dead Kennedys playlist run through my head... especially California Uber Alles...
...and so it goes... (borrowed from richard, who borrowed it from Vonnegut, who stole it from Billy Pilgrim his own self....)
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They ought to give that state back to Mexico........
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