11-08-2011, 14:33
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Pedophile State
or what was known as Penn State.
If what I read is true, what a bunch of failures, all the up to and including Joe Paterno and the Penn State President.
story: http://www.nytimes.com/2011/11/09/sp...rnos-exit.html
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11-08-2011, 14:38
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After 50 years, this will be the summary of Joe Pa's career.
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11-08-2011, 15:01
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If there is one thing that reasonable folks should agree on - ZERO TOLERANCE - for this type of shit should be that one thing.
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11-08-2011, 15:25
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Originally Posted by Bill Harsey
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That's what I see as well Bill. Paterno was in a regrettable, no-win position.
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11-08-2011, 16:11
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That's what I see as well Bill. Paterno was in a regrettable, no-win position.
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I think I see both of your points,but that's no way to treat a man that has done so much good to football and Penn State..
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11-08-2011, 16:30
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Joe did what he was supposed to do in the beginning which was to move this up the his chain of command, I am guessing he did not figure they were gonna bury it, which in the end may be his downfall. However if he goes down then the assistant who originally reported it ti him has to be on the hook too, and who knows how many others. Hindsight is always 20/20 and I am guessing that had Joe had it to do all over again he would have pursued this more vigorously. I personally do not think he should be the fall guy.
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11-08-2011, 16:31
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If this was going on at Penn State, just imagine the situation at Notre Dame!
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11-08-2011, 16:52
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Seems to me that Coach P could have avoided any of these problems by doing the right thing when it happened. I won't ever think of football when someone mentions his name to me.
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11-08-2011, 16:56
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I wonder if Sandusky was working for Paterno as defensive coordinator (or in any other capacity) when Paterno heard that Sandusky was molesting a child at the PSU athletic facilities?
IMO, Paterno should have confronted Sandusky and turned him in to police and not just report up the chain.
Paterno was certainly aware of the scandals that plagued the Catholic church in the mid 1980's.
IMO, one child's innocence (and stopping the next line of victims) is worth any temporary pain potentially caused to the institution.
If I hear of child molestation in my building.
ZERO TOLERANCE.
Sorry Jo Pa - maybe you should not take the fall - but the kid should not have been molested and, if true, Sandusky should have been stopped years ago.
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11-08-2011, 16:57
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Apparently the perpetrator was literally caught in the act at onetime and nobody blew the whistle.
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11-08-2011, 17:01
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He was a coach of a sports team. Is this who we think is important these days. We are fucked if true.
I contributed to society a thousand times more then this guy. Guilty or innocent. 4 year old kids play the same game. Shit, don't tell him that
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11-08-2011, 18:43
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He was a coach of a sports team. Is this who we think is important these days. We are fucked if true.
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Great Post!!!
They make big money and contribute nothing to society.
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11-08-2011, 18:51
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They make big money and contribute nothing to society.
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Along with athletes and entertainers.
My heros go far away places and slay our enemies.
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11-09-2011, 09:24
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11-09-2011, 09:48
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If this was going on at Penn State, just imagine the situation at Notre Dame! 
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Oh SNAP !!!!!!!!
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