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http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmp...vrs10309162250
Three-year-old Sophia Parlock cries while seated on the shoulders of her father, Phil Parlock, after having their Bush-Cheney sign torn up by Kerry-Edwards supporters on Thursday, Sept. 16, 2004, at the Tri-State Airport in Huntington, W.Va. Democratic vice presidential candidate John Edwards (news - web sites) made a brief stop at the airport as he concluded his two-day bus tour to locations in West Virginia and Ohio. (AP Photo/Randy Snyder)
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09-16-2004, 22:42
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Why doesn't this kind of shit ever happen when I happen to be standing close by?
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09-17-2004, 00:00
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It is the definition of "despicable".
The Washington Times did a story on this where they interviewed the father.
Check it out: http://www.washtimes.com/national/20...0155-8041r.htm
Note the last sentence, which is completely unrelated to the story, yet the author felt compelled to include it:
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Anti-war demonstrators have complained in recent weeks that they have been manhandled by security agents at Bush-Cheney campaign events.
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09-17-2004, 02:20
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I seriously doubt that any 3-year olds have been "man-handled" by Bush-Cheney security agents. It's sick enough that they attack a child; trying to justify it is even sicker. 
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09-17-2004, 05:26
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Look for the union label.
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09-17-2004, 06:51
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What a short sighted, self-serving punk. These idiots refuse to see the big picture, blinded by their own hardship. My Father (whom I love) is a rail road worker and spews the same bullshit rhetoric. The problem is that he is blinded by his concern for the welfare of his organization, not the Nation as a whole.
Oh yeah, the F'd up thing is that it looks like the Ass is laughing.
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09-17-2004, 07:39
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Although the results are totally uncalled for isn't going to an opponents rally bearing your own signs somewhat like jumping into the lion's den with a pork chop around your neck? I don't think I would have exposed my children to such a situation. I may have put on an anti-demonstration but left the kids at home. 
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09-17-2004, 08:39
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Although the results are totally uncalled for isn't going to an opponents rally bearing your own signs somewhat like jumping into the lion's den with a pork chop around your neck? I don't think I would have exposed my children to such a situation. I may have put on an anti-demonstration but left the kids at home. |
Good point.
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09-17-2004, 08:47
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Why doesn't this kind of shit ever happen when I happen to be standing close by?
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It's because your standing close by.
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09-17-2004, 08:54
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Originally Posted by QRQ 30
Although the results are totally uncalled for isn't going to an opponents rally bearing your own signs somewhat like jumping into the lion's den with a pork chop around your neck? I don't think I would have exposed my children to such a situation. I may have put on an anti-demonstration but left the kids at home. |
Practical considerations aside, are his family members not allowed their precious First Amendment rights, and should asshole union members in WVa make a habit out of tormenting three year old girls?
Are we saying that by being there with those signs, they deserved it?
I do not think you will see me (or many others) ripping a K-E sign from some kid's hands at a B-C rally.
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09-17-2004, 08:58
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Practical considerations aside, are his family members not allowed their precious First Amendment rights, and should asshole union members in WVa make a habit out of tormenting three year old girls?
Are we saying that by being there with those signs, they deserved it?
I do not think you will see me (or many others) ripping a K-E sign from some kid's hands at a B-C rally.
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I agree, but the guy put his kid in harm's way. It doesn't matter that people SHOULDN'T behave that way -- the fact is that they do and he should have known it.
That is no excuse for the misconduct by the Kerry supporters.
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09-17-2004, 09:15
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Originally Posted by QRQ 30
Although the results are totally uncalled for isn't going to an opponents rally bearing your own signs somewhat like jumping into the lion's den with a pork chop around your neck? I don't think I would have exposed my children to such a situation. I may have put on an anti-demonstration but left the kids at home. |
Unless I am misunderstanding the article, this was a public appearance at an airport, not a rally.
And isn't your comment kind of like blaming a rape on the clothes worn or place where it happened?
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09-17-2004, 09:16
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I agree, but the guy put his kid in harm's way. It doesn't matter that people SHOULDN'T behave that way -- the fact is that they do and he should have known it.
That is no excuse for the misconduct by the Kerry supporters.
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Then I guess dressing provacatively invites rape and makes it the victim's fault?
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09-17-2004, 10:12
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All I can say is that its a good thing that wasn't my kid, not that my 19-month old has much interest in anything other than getting into things and places he shouldn't be. My wife wouldn't approve of me taking the little guy to something like that. I wonder why this guy would take his kids to see the opposition VP candidate land at the airport unless he expected problems? The diehard faithful there to cheer on Mr. I-Sue-Doctors-Out-of-Business-Edwards aren't likely to be receptive of an opposing viewpoint, why potentially endanger your small children?
The whole thing reminds me of that video from the Seattle area where a B-C supporter got sucker-punched by a K-E supporter.
I personally aim to steer clear of crowds like that because I don't need to be tempted to introduce some hippy anarchist's cranium to their own fourth point of contact. I have a hard enough time listening to my mother-in-law, sister, and mother prattle about voting against Bush, I certainly have ZERO tolerance for someone I don't know getting in my face.
The VP is supposed to be in my neck of the woods today, but I have no idea where, just that its close to the Democratic People's Republik of Eugene.
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09-17-2004, 10:14
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Practical considerations aside, are his family members not allowed their precious First Amendment rights, and should asshole union members in WVa make a habit out of tormenting three year old girls?
Are we saying that by being there with those signs, they deserved it?
I do not think you will see me (or many others) ripping a K-E sign from some kid's hands at a B-C rally.
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Yes they are entitled to their rights. If you look again you will see that they are right at the barricade. The man intended to create a fuss and should not have endangered a three year old girl.
No, asshole union members in WVa or anywhere else in the States shouldn't make a habit of tormenting three year old girls. In fact, once is too much.
No I'm not saying they deserved the treatment but the father may have done more to avoid a direct confrontation.
You won't see me doing so either.
Have you thought of the possibility that this may have been a planned incident? Under the circumstances, would you be calmly standing at the barricade with your daughter on your shoulders, conveniently in front of a camera?
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