08-20-2011, 10:16
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How not to do it
Got this from another forum. But it needs to be shared. It amazes how many people feel they need have their name out there. Anyone know these tools. Watch for the guy that flags the entire line while using his weapon as a club.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xX4gz2r6IM8
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08-20-2011, 10:47
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WTF? A wet dream for Airsofters. "Rifle Fighting". Yeah. Right. Sexy.
Complex and fine motor skill movements for fighting in an open-ended dynamic event with poor muzzle discipline?
Hey, stay close to the target performing a bee mating dance so they can grab your rifle. Huh? For a split second thought the first aid was real because the instructor had executed a ND into someone's thigh.
They should have saved their money and trained with Paul Howe, et al.
Or in their case, double-up on the Viagra. P.T. Barnum was right. Good Lord! 
On their website it says " By Operators for Operators". I rest my case. 
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08-20-2011, 11:16
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WTH was that overhand grip crap? Or where the dude basically GAVE his rifle to the target (opponent)? Everytime they reloaded, they had to look to see where their mags were. I thought the guy in the light colored shirt was going to hit himself in the face with his handgun everytime he drew it back into him. These guys make the ballerinas from American Defense Enterprises look truly professional. 
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08-20-2011, 11:18
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On their website it says " By Operators for Operators". I rest my case
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Probably AT&T
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08-20-2011, 11:30
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they need more diversity!
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08-20-2011, 11:50
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bbA_E...eature=related
Here is another good one by these guys. I would hate to get caught in the door with one.
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08-20-2011, 11:57
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08-20-2011, 12:03
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WTF is it wit hthese guys rolling the entire weapon over everytime there is a stall? NO IAD?... isn't that the clue if you have a good round count and you're not out? and a drop and fill may be the best course anyway....
Oh, well, no forward assist on most of these guns anyway....
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08-20-2011, 12:15
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Originally Posted by kgoerz
Got this from another forum. But it needs to be shared. It amazes how many people feel they need have their name out there. Anyone know these tools. Watch for the guy that flags the entire line while using his weapon as a club.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xX4gz2r6IM8 |
It's got to where I get surprised any time I don't see shit like this.
That's why the Brits invented the word "Wanker".
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08-20-2011, 13:07
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I don't understand the desire to spend money on this kind of "training" or on thigh rigs/tactical vests/ cool guy hats etc if you are non military or non leo. for the price of their gear (that they will never use for its intended purpose) I can buy another pistol/rifle/or ammo, or training by vetted instructors in skills relevent to a civillian's needs.
As for sending them to someone like Paul Howe, I have too much respect for him to send people like this to csat..
Back when I was a martial arts instructor, every other month there would be some idiot in black belt magazine demonstrating his gun "kata". It looks like the goofballs and posers have migrated from black belt magazine to the us cavalry catalog.
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08-20-2011, 13:10
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Originally Posted by x SF med
WTF is it wit hthese guys rolling the entire weapon over everytime there is a stall? NO IAD?... isn't that the clue if you have a good round count and you're not out? and a drop and fill may be the best course anyway....
Oh, well, no forward assist on most of these guns anyway....
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I think that's right out of Costa Magpul Dynamics tape. Inspecting chamber to see bolt lock vs. double feed vs. bla bla. I like VTAc approach better http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-TqLnBd1udM
...still, no worries of these malfunction drill when you're running an AK 
Worst ever malfunction was during a HP match. During seated rapid fore, while holding the ring, that thick shooting glove somehow covered the ejection port in such angle that a spent case was flung back in and lodged around the gas tube. The match director had to pry it out with a pocket knife. Learned my lesson well and since then has always watched for port obstruction at various shooting positions
IIRC, the overhand grip is popularized after the 3 gun crowd http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=29GGLt1ZT2U
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08-20-2011, 13:11
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Back when I was a martial arts instructor, every other month there would be some idiot in black belt magazine demonstrating his gun "kata". It looks like the goofballs and posers have migrated from black belt magazine to the us cavalry catalog.
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How 'bout anybody who reads or has ever suscribed to read "Black Belt" magazine was a goofball?
I love you "Martial Arts Instructors".
PM me for a phone number. I need a lesson.
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08-20-2011, 13:18
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I don't pretend to be something I wasn't. I taught self defense to people in as pragmatic a method as I was able. It was something I enjoyed, and enjoyed teaching to others. I taught men women and children to be more confident and to not present themselves as victims. How was that career some how not worth while?
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08-20-2011, 13:22
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I don't pretend to be something I wasn't. I taught self defense to people in as pragmatic a method as I was able. It was something I enjoyed, and enjoyed teaching to others. I taught men women and children to be more confident and to not present themselves as victims. How was that career some how not worth while?
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Who said it was "some how not worth while"?
I got beat up by a harsh chick named Myong Mayes for years.
That was what was not worth while.
I don't disparage Tae Kwon Do. I just have a good nose for bullshit artists.
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08-20-2011, 13:32
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My only point with my original post was that I saw the same type of instruction in the martial arts world. People pretending to be teaching mystical skills and presenting themselves as superhuman masters. Much like the growth in shooting schools run by people pretending to be ex-commandos.
I agree that black belt magazine was ridiculous and no, I did not subscribe, but I've read plenty of them.
I taught kempo, not TKD. It was a rewarding job that I held full time for 17 years before I moved on.
PS.com is your house. I offer no disrespect but I'm no bullshit artist.
My apologies for taking the thread off topic.
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