American Defense Enterprise

[kgoerz]

This cant for real. Sorry if this has been posted already. I found it on another Forum.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kneus...ature=youtu.be

[Dusty]

The FOG with the goatee looks familiar...

[Team Sergeant]

Holy shiite that was funny......

I love that the video "starts" with the Asian female having a malfunction and then her mag sticks.... (oh that was a glock what a piece of shiite.....)

This video should be in the comedy zone.....

I also find it amusing (after further research) that all the instructors talk about everything except their shooting credentials. I took note that none of the "instructors" bios are on their website........

[greenberetTFS]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E9RYB...eature=related

This is a better one...........

Big Teddy

[jw74]

So do mall cops have swat teams now?

[kgoerz]

Like I said on the other Forum. Doing barricade shooting with other shooters down range. Guess they think if someone shoots the side of the barricade the bullet continues straight. I know of two incidents where this has happened. Both resulted in someone shot.

[Richard]

Originally Posted by Team Sergeant

I also find it amusing (after further research) that all the instructors talk about everything except their shooting credentials. I took note that none of the "instructors" bios are on their website........

They left them off on the advice of their attorney because of the NDAs they signed when they left that place nobody but the press, al-Quaida, and the White House know about...but there's a book and a movie deal in the works.

Richard

[alelks]

Originally Posted by kgoerz

Like I said on the other Forum. Doing barricade shooting with other shooters down range. Guess they think if someone shoots the side of the barricade the bullet continues straight. I know of two incidents where this has happened. Both resulted in someone shot.

If I remember correctly that is what was called a "Rabbid" or "Rabbit" round (bulled glances off the wall and hugs the wall).

[Team Sergeant]

For all you civilians reading this:

The weaver grip/ stance is dead. This might be the only "Professional" still teaching the Weaver and one handed point shooting.....

I am attempting to figure out the placement of hand on breast while point shooting with the other hand.

And the grip of the black guy is no longer taught by professionals.

So is one handed point shooting. If you want someone to take your gun away from you in a big hurry, hold it in one hand close to the bad guy.

Falling down and shooting is as intelligent as walking backwards while shooting, these guys teach both.

Pulling two knives at a gun fight? Really? Seriously......

I love the back to back "dance and shoot"...... these guys need to trademark that.....

Notice the "transition" between m-4 and pistol (Knife man).......while walking backwards & shooting....... LOL

If you watch at 2:38 you will see just how close (looks like knife boy again) one guy was 1/10 of a second from being shot by knife boy. Knife boy never saw him coming. Remember all that "pronounced" looking around after taking the shot, guess what knife boy is not doing after he shoots.....

Now I know why their Professional bio's are not posted on their website......

Professional weapons instructors, not a chance. These guys are going to get someone killed.

Team Sergeant

[BOfH]

Originally Posted by Team Sergeant

I also find it amusing (after further research) that all the instructors talk about everything except their shooting credentials. I took note that none of the "instructors" bios are on their website........

Note from their site that DHS rates them numero uno as far as trainers go. Says alot, doesn't it?

[Pete]

They never would have been able to do that in just Jungle Boots.

[rdret1]

[QUOTE=Team Sergeant;408977]For all you civilians reading this:

The weaver grip/ stance is dead. This might be the only "Professional" still teaching the Weaver and one handed point shooting.....

Actually TS, Weaver is still taught as a viable position in a lot of LE courses. Many LE qual courses also have you fire two shots in three seconds one handed from the three yard line. That is probably what this was based off of.

I am attempting to figure out the placement of hand on breast while point shooting with the other hand.

This is taught in several LE courses for close in (point contact). Students are taught to strike the suspect, disengage and draw while taking a step back and firing. It is supposed to keep you from shooting your off hand.

Falling down and shooting is as intelligent as walking backwards while shooting, these guys teach both.

Have no idea where they got this one.

I love the back to back "dance and shoot"...... these guys need to trademark that.....

Or this one. That was just plain stupid.

Notice the "transition" between m-4 and pistol (Knife man).......while walking backwards & shooting....... LOL

I have seen this taught in some LE classes as well.

[kgoerz]

I went thru FLETC in 2007. They taught a lot of moving back wards stuff. I called it more retreat training. A lot of it was viable, creating distance or putting an obstacle between you and the threat.
One handed point shooting. Is taught all the time. Cops often only have one hand free to hold the pistol, using a mike with other hand, holding one suspect down...etc.

[Team Sergeant]

[QUOTE=rdret1;408993]

Originally Posted by Team Sergeant

For all you civilians reading this:



Actually TS, Weaver is still taught as a viable position in a lot of LE courses. Many LE qual courses also have you fire two shots in three seconds one handed from the three yard line. That is probably what this was based off of.



This is taught in several LE courses for close in (point contact). Students are taught to strike the suspect, disengage and draw while taking a step back and firing. It is supposed to keep you from shooting your off hand.



Have no idea where they got this one.



Or this one. That was just plain stupid.



I have seen this taught in some LE classes as well.

All of this must be those "Defensive Shooting Courses" I've always heard of......

I once had two law enforcement officers (Phoenix cops) call me from Texas and ask me if the SEALS and Special Forces used a lot of "homemade black powder breaching charges" to breach doors and walls with. Seems these two LEO's were attending a law enforcement training course and the individual teaching the course told them that we (SF) used black powder charges. I told him no we did not use black powder to breach with and why. They left the course without paying. This was just a couple of years ago.

My point is there are thousands of these "firearms instructors" out there. No one holds them accountable for senseless and stupid training. Everyone has a gimmick and I've seen a whole lot of stupid gimmicks. Placing your hand on your breast is one of those "stupid gimmicks". If you have time to place it on your breast, before you pull the trigger then you have time to place it back onto your weapon. This is right up there with blinding an armed bad guy with white light (flashlights) while standing behind a sheetrock wall........

Again, if you want your weapon taken away from you go ahead and use one hand and point shoot.

Originally Posted by kgoerz

I went thru FLETC in 2007. They taught a lot of moving back wards stuff. I called it more retreat training. A lot of it was viable, creating distance or putting an obstacle between you and the threat.
One handed point shooting. Is taught all the time. Cops often only have one hand free to hold the pistol, using a mike with other hand, holding one suspect down...etc.

Unless you can run backwards at a mile a second "creating distance" seems sort of a silly notion. Why anyone would want to walk backward while firing, when armed with an M-4 and pistol is beyond me. I'll take door number two and use all that time and effort and make one high value shot.

[sinjefe]

Choreography, thats all it is. Looks cool to someone who doesn't know any better