07-14-2011, 07:40
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07-14-2011, 07:47
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When it comes to the secretive cadre of cyberwarriors who are asked to attack in cyberspace, Hartman sees many similarities between the geek squads of the future and today’s commando units.
http://www.nationaldefensemagazine.o...nsCommand.aspx
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07-14-2011, 09:31
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When it comes to the secretive cadre of cyberwarriors who are asked to attack in cyberspace, Hartman sees many similarities between the geek squads of the future and today’s commando units.

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We need to send Mr Hartman a geek & a QP. Each to kick him in the balls,, then get his impression(s) on their similarities..
This will make the World of Warcraft XX crowd very happy...
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07-14-2011, 11:52
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Someone needs to (physically) breach that data-center in hostile territory, and I don't see any of the WoW crowd stacking up, so, while the goals are the same(get in, get data, get out), the methods are very different, don't see too many similarities there. Remember, in information security, there is no security without physical security.
On a side note, FID with a bunch of servers would be pretty much painless, no duffels of cash/guns and tribal politics, just a good rootkit or two.
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07-15-2011, 01:25
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This will make the World of Warcraft XX crowd very happy... 
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I'm going to go out on a limb and suggest that any quality "cyberwarrior" isn't wasting their time with video games, but rather spending it on skill-building and research.
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07-15-2011, 03:25
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Notwithstanding rhetoric regarding who our "future commandos" will be... what are the two offensive tenants of Unconventional Warfare??? Sabotage and subversion. I know there have been attempts to remove these terms from the UW lexicon, but I still believe that these tactics are crucial to our ability to conduct guerilla warfare. Times have changed since WWII though and we need to adapt... the most critical structure may no longer be that railroad substation, but a computer server or network! Subversion - how can we most effectively psychologically undermine the strength of a foreign government? Well, the most immediate and widespread effects may be achieved through the information superhighway.
Read this...
http://www.washingtonpost.com/nation...6EI_story.html
Our cybersecurity is on its heels - there is no offensive consequence that we offer. So, not only can we use these guys for our mission, but if the USG wants to prosecute targets that are attacking our networks, a precise small unit raid may be worth conducting.
I'm not arguing for placing another regiment or battalion under SOCOM/USASOC, but SF should definitely be working with these guys.
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07-15-2011, 05:07
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Notwithstanding rhetoric regarding who our "future commandos" will be... what are the two offensive tenants of Unconventional Warfare??? Sabotage and subversion. I know there have been attempts to remove these terms from the UW lexicon, but I still believe that these tactics are crucial to our ability to conduct guerilla warfare.
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Check out the training update in the latest SW Magazine for changes to the Robin Sage POI.
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07-15-2011, 05:21
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Check out the training update in the latest SW Magazine for changes to the Robin Sage POI.
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And the article "Expanding the UW reach" - description of UW Ed levels 1-4.
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07-15-2011, 07:40
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Yep, read those.
For the others, the articles are located at http://www.soc.mil/swcs/swmag/index.htm
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07-15-2011, 07:51
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All that stuff is great as long as you have electricity.
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07-15-2011, 08:11
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eBulldog61: "This is "eBulldog61" Yeah, I've got a rouge blogosphere transmitting nasty emails, requesting permission to engage?"
SOCOM HQ: "eBulldog61 standby"
eBulldog61: "Standby?" "Standby?" I'VE GOT SPAMMERS IN THE WIRE!!!!!!!! REQUEST PERMISSION TO ENGAGE!
SOCOM HQ: Roger, good copy eBulldog stand by.
eBulldog61: "HQ you don't understand, I've just lost a smartphone, a note pad and a laptop. There's only two desktops left and we're running low on nachos and RedBull. Request permission to engage!!!!!!!!!!!!!"
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07-15-2011, 08:30
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07-15-2011, 08:39
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SOCOM HQ: "ebulldog61, stand down stand down!!! That enemy blogosphere is hosted on a server that is co-hosting a baby milk factory website, STAND DOWN!
eBulldog61: Roger HQ, good copy, we're standing down. Besides Jerry Springer is about to start. This is eBulldog61, out.
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07-15-2011, 08:41
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I wonder what future team parties will look like?
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07-15-2011, 13:10
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I wonder what future team parties will look like?
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Probably a lot like this:
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