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Old 07-07-2011, 06:01   #1
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FACT CHECK: Bachmann Bomblets Raising Eyebrows

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FACT CHECK: Bachmann Bomblets Raising Eyebrows
FiscalTimes, 28 Jun 2011

Michele Bachmann's claim that she has "never gotten a penny" from a family farm that's been subsidized by the government is at odds with her financial disclosure statements. They show tens of thousands in personal income from the operation.

And, on a less substantive note, she flubbed her hometown history when declaring "John Wayne was from Waterloo, Iowa," and "that's the kind of spirit that I have, too," in running for president.

The actor was born nearly 150 miles away. It was the serial killer John Wayne Gacy Jr. who lived, for a time, in Waterloo.

Those were among the latest examples of how the Minnesota congresswoman has become one to watch — for inaccuracies as well as rising support — in the Republican presidential race.

Bachmann's wildly off-base assertion last month that a NATO airstrike might have killed as many as 30,000 Libyan civilians, her misrepresentations of the health care law, misfires on other aspects of President Barack Obama's record and historical inaccuracies have saddled her with a reputation for uttering populist jibes that don't hold up.

She announced her candidacy Monday in Iowa with a speech typical for someone joining the campaign. It laid out the broad themes of her candidacy and mostly avoided the Bachmann bomblets that have grabbed attention — and often fizzled under scrutiny — in the long lead-up.

The more the political season heats up, the more that exaggerations and sound-bite oversimplifications emanate from the Republicans going after Obama — and from the Democrats playing defense. Still, Bachmann's record on this score is distinct.

Examining 24 of her statements, Politifact.com, the Pulitzer Prize-winning fact-checking service of the St. Petersburg (Fla.) Times, found just one to be fully true and 17 to be false (seven of them "pants on fire" false). No other Republican candidate whose statements have been vigorously vetted matched that record of inaccuracy.

A look at some of her recent statements and how they compare with the facts:

BACHMANN: "The farm is my father-in-law's farm. It's not my husband and my farm. It's my father-in-law's farm. And my husband and I have never gotten a penny of money from the farm." — On "Fox News Sunday."

THE FACTS: In personal financial disclosure reports required annually from members of Congress, Bachmann reported that she holds an interest in a family farm in Independence, Wis., with her share worth between $100,000 and $250,000.

The farm, which was owned by her father-in-law, produced income for Bachmann of at least $32,500 and as much as $105,000 from 2006 through 2009, according to the reports she filed for that period. The farm also received federal crop and disaster subsidies, according to a database maintained by the Environmental Working Group. From 1995 through 2010, the farm got $259,332 in federal payments.

When asked about the subsidies and her income from the farm late last year, a spokesman for Bachmann said only that she wasn't involved in decisions about the running of the farm.

Bachmann told The Associated Press on Monday that her husband became a trustee of the farm because his father had dementia before he died two years ago, and "oversees the legal entity."

"Everything we do with those forms is in an abundance of caution," she said, insisting she and her husband receive no farm income despite the forms reporting it.

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BACHMANN: "Well what I want them to know is, just like John Wayne was from Waterloo, Iowa, that's the kind of spirit that I have, too." — Speaking to Fox News on Sunday.

Wayne was born in Winterset, Iowa, nearly three hours away, and moved to California in his childhood. John Wayne Gacy, convicted of killing 33 men and boys, was born in Chicago, moved to Waterloo to work in his father-in-law's chicken restaurants and first ran afoul of the law there, sentenced to 10 years for sodomy. He began his killing spree after his release, and his return to Illinois.

Bachmann told CNN on Tuesday her comments "were just misspeaking" and that her main intent was to show she identified with Wayne's patriotism.

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BACHMANN: "Overnight we are hearing that potentially 10 to 30,000 people could have been killed in the strike." — Criticizing Obama in May for the "foolish" U.S. intervention in Libya, and citing what she said were reports of a civilian death toll from a NATO strike as high as 30,000.

THE FACTS: The U.S. ambassador to Libya, Gene Cretz, said in late April that U.S. officials have seen reports that 10,000 to 30,000 people may have died in Moammar Gadhafi's crackdown on protesters and the fighting between rebels and pro-government forces, but it is hard to know if that is true. He was speaking about all casualties of the conflict; no one has attributed such a death toll to NATO bombing alone, much less to a single strike.

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BACHMANN: "It's ironic and sad that the president released all of the oil from the strategic oil reserve. ... There's only a limited amount of oil that we have in the strategic oil reserve. It's there for emergencies." — On CBS' "Face the Nation" on Sunday.

THE FACTS: Obama did not empty all the oil from the strategic reserve, as Bachmann said. He approved the release of 30 million barrels, about 4 percent of the 727 million barrels stored in salt caverns along the Texas and Louisiana coasts. It's true that the U.S. normally taps the reserve for more dire emergencies than exist today, and that exposes Obama to criticism that he acted for political gain. But the reserve has never been fuller; it held 707 million barrels when last tapped, after 2008 hurricanes.

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BACHMANN: "One. That's the number of new drilling permits under the Obama administration since they came into office." — Comment to a conservative conference in Iowa in March.

THE FACTS: The Obama administration issued more than 200 new drilling permits before the Gulf oil spill alone. Over the past year, since new safety standards were imposed, the administration has issued more than 60 shallow-water drilling permits. Since the deep water moratorium was lifted in October, nine new wells have been approved.

http://www.thefiscaltimes.com/Articl...-eyebrows.aspx
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Old 07-07-2011, 06:16   #2
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Here we go...

There's not enough bandwidth on the net to enumerate Dem gaffes, lies, crimes and distortions, but all you hear from media.communist is digs on Conservative hiccups.

Come on, January 2013.
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Old 07-07-2011, 06:35   #3
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http://www.politifact.com/personalities/barack-obama/

http://www.politifact.com/personalities/joe-biden/

http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-me...gs/pants-fire/

Worthwhile bookmark for those interested in politics.

http://www.politifact.com/

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St. Petersburg, eh? Good stuff!

Not exactly mainstream media...
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I'm waiting....

I'm waiting for her to claim there are 57 states and see what the MSM does with that.
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St. Petersburg, eh? Good stuff!

Not exactly mainstream media...
Huh???

http://www.newsmaxlinks.com/us_newspapers_top_100.cfm

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I'm waiting for her to claim there are 57 states and see what the MSM does with that.
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Yep, the St. Pete Times is in the top 100 rags.
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ST. Pete Times has some excellent investigative reporters.
You don't want them on your case if you have skeletons under the rose bushes.
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ST. Pete Times has some excellent investigative reporters.
You don't want them on your case if you have skeletons under the rose bushes.
What I'd love to see is the same expertise and zeal applied to the current administration and broadcast over the most-watched non-Fox news networks.
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What I'd love to see is the same expertise and zeal applied to the current administration and broadcast over the most-watched non-Fox news networks.
I think Dusty has a good point here...........

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The St. Petersburg Times is well known and respected in some circles <<LINK>>.

IMO, Ms. Bachmann's ongoing case of hoofinmouthis is an entirely different issue of how the media, mainstream and otherwise, cover it.

It is not the MSM's fault that Ms. Bachmann has endorsed a policy preference that embraces the following "logic". (Source attached, as the FAMiLY LEADER is in CYA mode.)
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Slavery had a disastrous impact on African-American families, yet sadly a child born into slavery in 1860 was more likely to be raised by his mother and father in a two-parent household than was an African-American baby born after the election of the USA’s first African-American President.
If politicians--especially those conservatives who recall fondly the good ole days--are going to base their policy preferences in American history, they need to hit the stacks. Else, their credibility (intellectual, political, and moral) will remain vulnerable to any motivated American with a library card.

Or, if politicians don't want to invest the time so that they can know what they're talking about, they could at least ask themselves "Does this statement help or hurt me politically with the intended audience?"
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It is not the MSM's fault that Ms. Bachmann has endorsed a policy preference that embraces the following "logic". (Source attached, as the FAMiLY LEADER is in CYA mode.)If politicians--especially those conservatives who recall fondly the good ole days--are going to base their policy preferences in American history, they need to hit the stacks. Else, their credibility (intellectual, political, and moral) will remain vulnerable to any motivated American with a library card.

Or, if politicians don't want to invest the time so that they can know what they're talking about, they could at least ask themselves "Does this statement help or hurt me politically with the intended audience?"
There is an old saying, "A text, without a context, is a pretext."

I guess I am politically incorrect, but having read the pledge in it's entirety, I didn't find anything objectionable. Not that I agreed with everything in the pledge, but I didn't see anything overtly offensive.

Interestingly, on my way home from the gym tonight, I was listening to a speaker on a radio station. He was lamenting that, in America, "political correctness" is often a sword used by the left to combat facts they don't like.

So, I guess my question is, are the facts stated in the two-sentence quote incorrect, or is the problem that the wording of the quote was too strong? What would be a better way to express the ideas contained therein, assuming the facts were true. Also, the next paragraph discussed the Moynihan Report. Did the same people who are presently harpooning Bachmann make similar complaints against the now-deceased Democrat Moynihan?
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Her 'world-view' may present some electability problems when it comes to a national level election.

Bachmann's Unrivaled Extremism

http://www.thedailybeast.com/article...-religion.html

And so it goes...

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It seems to me that the left and their media stooges have found it effective/easier to attack the messenger than deal with the issues or address the existing problems. Maybe it is better for some that those problems don't go away. If things are going to get better, we will have to set aside all the PC BS and face the issues. Sadly, I do not see it happening anytime soon. MOO, I could be wrong.
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