Another SWAT hit.....

**Pete** · 06-08-2011, 07:25

Another SWAT hit........

Just going after another hardened criminal.........

http://www.news10.net/news/article/1...kton-mans-door

Ya' really need to read the full story and watch the video.

1stindoor · 06-08-2011, 07:34

College loans? Really? I imagine there's a ton of recent college kids across America right now scrambling to make payments.

Paragrouper · 06-08-2011, 07:44

The Department of Education has a tactical team?

mcmac61 · 06-08-2011, 07:55

They really need the money out in Cali.

Hand · 06-08-2011, 07:59

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According to the Department of Education's Office of the Inspector General, the case can't be discussed publicly until it is closed, but a spokesperson did confirm that the department did issue the search warrant at Wright's home.

The Office of the Inspector General has a law enforcement branch of federal agents that carry out search warrants and investigations.

Now who knew this until now?

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Office of the Inspector General
Mission Statement

To promote the efficiency, effectiveness, and integrity of the Department's programs and operations, we conduct independent and objective audits, investigations, inspections, and other activities. Anyone knowing of fraud, waste, or abuse of Department of Education funds should contact the OIG Hotline to make a confidential report.

LINK

Ahhh, and here is where their authority comes from Statutory Law Enforcement Authority

What an interesting department they have there. I wonder how many other departments are buried in the government who have the power to SWAT team your unsuspecting @ss.

**The Reaper** · 06-08-2011, 08:57

Yep, a few years ago, people were asking why the Dept of Ed was issuing requests for purchases of M4s and breaching shotguns.

Now we know.

TR

rdret1 · 06-08-2011, 10:07

Wow! I had no idea the Dept. of Ed. had this ability. In all of the law enforcement classes and seminars I have been to, I have never seen a DOE "officer". Dept. of Energy - yes; Dept. of Ed. - no.

What possible evidence could they have been looking for? If it was just to apprehend his ex-wife, a knock-and-talk would have been much more efficient.

akv · 06-08-2011, 10:10

On the brightside at least no one was shot 70 times over a student loan, (yet)

Ironically, Stockton like Oakland leads the state in violent crime, city finances led to laying off tons of LEO, so the city lacks adequate coverge. Yet, if true, there are Dept of Education ordered SWAT teams hitting peoples houses over bad student loans?

Paragrouper · 06-08-2011, 10:44

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Originally Posted by rdret1

What possible evidence could they have been looking for? If it was just to apprehend his ex-wife, a knock-and-talk would have been much more efficient.

There you go, trying to apply logic to the Federal government again.

rdret1 · 06-08-2011, 10:52

http://www.cato-at-liberty.org/depar...student-loans/

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...=feeds-newsxml

http://www.alternet.org/newsandviews...an_defaulters/

http://www.examiner.com/finance-exam...t-of-education

Here are several more interesting view points on this incident.

Hand · 06-08-2011, 11:34

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Originally Posted by rdret1

http://www.cato-at-liberty.org/depar...student-loans/

The first link had this at the bottom

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This, along with the Jose Guerena case, demonstrates how the militarization of police terminology and tactics is incompatible with a free society. Police officers aren’t “operators” like Green Berets or Navy SEALs.

Its interesting to hear someone frame this story in that manner because it then exposes it to the Constitutionality of this practice. If memory serves correctly, there is a provision that 'military force' can not be used on citizens outside of the declaration of Martial Law.

Categorizing these agents as 'militarized' would seem to blur the legality of their actions.

Am I so far off target?

**Pete** · 06-08-2011, 11:43

At least the subject of the loan shark's attention didn't pull a Cory Maye.

JJ_BPK · 06-08-2011, 11:44

Sounds like we need another Beer Summit???

rdret1 · 06-08-2011, 11:49

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Originally Posted by Hand

The first link had this at the bottom

Its interesting to hear someone frame this story in that manner because it then exposes it to the Constitutionality of this practice. If memory serves correctly, there is a provision that 'military force' can not be used on citizens outside of the declaration of Martial Law.

Categorizing these agents as 'militarized' would seem to blur the legality of their actions.

Am I so far off target?

Many departments have trouble with the term "militarization". Some civilians take it so far as to apply it to the rank structure in a department. It may be a sad fact that todays crime and criminals require departments to address training and equipment in a more "military" style nature. It has nothing to do with the legality of it. It is a term used to polarize citizens attitudes against law enforcement. Unfortunantly, cases such as this lend credence to that attitude.

SWAT teams should be used in very specific circumstances. IMO, this one does not come even close to the threshold.

Axe · 06-08-2011, 12:04

I think I had better hurry down to the library and pay my overdue book fine.....