04-21-2011, 19:40
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Brutal Mexican drug gang crosses into U.S.
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04-21-2011, 20:30
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Donde estan Los Pepes?
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04-21-2011, 20:38
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Donde estan Los Pepes?
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Interesante. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Los_Pepes
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04-26-2011, 18:01
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Glen Beck made some interesting observations this afternoon. He compared the casualty figures from Libya and Syria prior to the UN interventions to the casualty figures on the border caused by the cartels. His point was how quickly liberal organizations and our current administration will demand something be done in the Middle East and with the Palestinians, but totally ignore Mexico. He also added the total indifference to central and south Africa by these organizations, but that was more as an additional thought than as an actual problem.
Los Zetas have been connected to drugs and violence in over 200 American cities but that does not get the coverage.
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04-26-2011, 18:45
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We're going to have to play just as hard as they do. I say make it an automatic death sentence for any cartel member caught operating on our side of the border.
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04-26-2011, 19:00
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Mexico is all our fault...
...we should apologize.
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04-26-2011, 20:08
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04-26-2011, 20:52
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Originally Posted by mojaveman
We're going to have to play just as hard as they do. I say make it an automatic death sentence for any cartel member caught operating on our side of the border.
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Yeah, a lawyer I know is a former anti-death penalty lawyer.
He told me that a few years ago, when he left, the cost of a capital trial was between one and two million dollars. Of course, that is the cost to the state (taxpayers). Most of the accused are indigent and obtain excellent legal representation for free.
As has been noted elsewhere, there are organizations of volunteers and lawyers that come out of the woodwork to defend the scum, to make life difficult for the prosecution, and to generally foul the case. He said that is why so many pleas are offered to avoid the cost and potential damage of a trial.
You would never get permission to excute cartel members without extremely lengthy and expensive trials, and after reading about the trial for excessive handcuff leverage, I don't think killing them during the course of arrest is going to work either, unless you want the capital criminal trial for the LEO.
Killing them on sight for a healthy reward would probably be the best way to handle it, but we no longer have the stones for that.
TR
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04-26-2011, 21:02
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Originally Posted by rdret1
Glen Beck made some interesting observations this afternoon. He compared the casualty figures from Libya and Syria prior to the UN interventions to the casualty figures on the border caused by the cartels. His point was how quickly liberal organizations and our current administration will demand something be done in the Middle East and with the Palestinians, but totally ignore Mexico. He also added the total indifference to central and south Africa by these organizations, but that was more as an additional thought than as an actual problem.
Los Zetas have been connected to drugs and violence in over 200 American cities but that does not get the coverage.
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The numbers of dead on the other side of the border are astounding, they are the kind of numbers I would expect to see from a 'War Zone'.
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04-26-2011, 21:08
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IMO, a little team work and creativity can go a long way - the nice folks of a certain town in MS confirmed this theory when their paths recently crossed with the Westboro Baptist Church folks.
All is not lost for the good guys.
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04-27-2011, 15:30
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Donde estan Los Pepes?
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Son noticias viejas...ahora es que se dan cuenta la prensa jaja.
Edit: I don't see a end to the mexican drug cartel/gangs in the near future, most of these latin countrys have a extremely high rate of corruption leading to the aid of these criminals.
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04-27-2011, 16:06
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Originally Posted by The Reaper
Killing them on sight for a healthy reward would probably be the best way to handle it, but we no longer have the stones for that.TR
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TR,
Sir,I.say.this.with.the.utmost.respect...
Hope.you.are.wrong....but.since.hell.has.not.froze over.yet.... 
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/...pands-into-us/
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"What the Zetas are capable of doing was never more clear than the carnage they left behind in December 2009 on a squalid back street in the border town of Reynosa, Mexico, across the Rio Grande from McAllen, Texas. The bodies were no longer human, their torsos scarred by deep lacerations and punctures; the severed heads were badly beaten. Crudely butchered limbs lay scattered across a blood-stained tarmac."
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04-27-2011, 19:22
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Originally Posted by tonyz
IMO, a little team work and creativity can go a long way - the nice folks of a certain town in MS confirmed this theory when their paths recently crossed with the Westboro Baptist Church folks.
All is not lost for the good guys.
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INDEED!!! 
Well.said.Tz!!!
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