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Old 04-14-2011, 11:11   #1
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U.S. Army/Military Special Forces Reserve

In these times of budget constraints perhaps SF should consider selling SFQC waivers.

29. April 13, Talking Points Memo - (California; International) Chinese
national charged with running scam U.S. Army unit. A Chinese national was
arrested April 12 in California on charges he created a fake Army special
forces unit and convinced more than 100 other Chinese nationals to join and
pay him fees to participate, the Los Angeles County District Attorney's (DA)
office said. The 51-year-old suspect of El Monte, California, allegedly
called himself the "Supreme Commander" of a phony military unit called the
"U.S. Army/Military Special Forces Reserve." According to the DA, he formed
the unit in October 2008, and recruited other Chinese nationals by telling
them joining was a path to U.S. citizenship. Members allegedly paid the man
initiation fees ranging from $300 to $450, along with yearly $120 renewal
fees. In return, the man provided recruits with fake U.S. Army uniforms,
fake documents, and fake military ID cards. He also allegedly decorated his
Temple City, California office to look like a U.S. military recruiting
center, and ordered his recruits to report for military training and
indoctrination. The DA's office press release said the fake unit even
marched in a parade in Monterey Park, and went in uniform for a tour of the
USS Midway museum in San Diego. According to the Los Angeles Times, the
suspect's recruits were "typically" low-wage workers at Chinese restaurants,
and while most were from the Los Angeles area, some lived as far away as
Georgia. An FBI spokeswoman said investigations began 3 years ago, when
police began to notice some people pulling out fake military identification
during traffic stops. Source:
http://tpmmuckraker.talkingpointsmem...am_us_army.php
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Old 04-14-2011, 11:29   #2
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investigations began 3 years ago, when
police began to notice some people pulling out fake military identification
during traffic stops
THREE friggin years?????
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Old 04-14-2011, 12:44   #3
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Damn, missed that one. Thinking back I was then tied up with a Post-wide exercise, preparations for a DA level inspection and prepping for the interview that got me my present job...
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Old 04-14-2011, 13:35   #4
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Old 04-14-2011, 16:38   #5
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Professionalsoldiers.com has been aware of this FAKE Special Forces "unit" since Fri 10/30/2009 1:04 PM

Professionalsoldiers.com was asked by Federal Agents NOT to make them famous in 2009.

As you can see we complied.


U.S. Army/Military Special Forces Reserve did amuse us.

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Old 04-14-2011, 16:48   #6
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I like the officer's dress greens with CSM rank insignia - must be one of those Sergeant-Major types I've heard rumors of over the years.

No wonder they got away with this for so long - 'hide in open sight' is a proven technique.

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Old 04-14-2011, 17:27   #7
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Lawyers for man accused of raising fake army say group was a charity

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David Deng of El Monte is accused of running an immigration scam in which he recruited paying Chinese immigrants to a sham special forces unit. But lawyers for Deng say he modeled the group on the Salvation Army.
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An El Monte man accused of preying on Chinese immigrants by charging them to join a fake U.S. Army unit is actually a charity-minded businessman who modeled his military group on the Salvation Army, according to his attorney.
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Old 04-15-2011, 05:48   #8
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Not completely untrue,I trained SP Li personally...............

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Old 04-15-2011, 06:29   #9
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Looks like recruiting is getting the SHORT end of the budget??
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Old 04-15-2011, 06:40   #10
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More OPERATOR pictures,, with latest camo...

Looks like recruiting is getting the SHORT end of the budget??
You can't tell me he doesn't look like a typical SFQC Sgt...........

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Old 04-16-2011, 13:42   #11
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You can't tell me he doesn't look like a typical SFQC Sgt...........

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Evidently he and his OPERATORS had most of Southern Kalifornicate fooled??

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Bogus Chinese-American militia marched in parades
Apr 16 03:06 PM US/Eastern
By AMY TAXIN
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LOS ANGELES (AP) - They didn't have Army haircuts. Their boots didn't shine. And their uniforms didn't look right.

U.S. Army veteran Joaquin Lim sensed something was amiss with the troop that had popped up at civic events in Southern California's Chinese-American communities. At a flag raising ceremony honoring a Chinese holiday, the Walnut city councilman stopped one of the recruits and asked to see his military ID.

"There were actually typos on the ID card," Lim said. "Right away, I knew something was wrong."

Those suspicions came into the spotlight Tuesday when authorities arrested the so-called "supreme commander" of the U.S. Army/Military Special Forces Reserve unit and charged him with duping Chinese immigrants into thinking they had truly enlisted in the American armed forces.

Prosecutors say Yupeng Deng, 51, recruited 100 other Chinese immigrants from as far away as Northern California and even Georgia to enlist in his Southern California group—at the cost of several hundred dollars—to help improve their chances of obtaining green cards and U.S. citizenship.

Deng, who also goes by the name David, is charged with 13 counts of obtaining money, labor or property under false pretenses, manufacturing and selling phony identification documents and using a counterfeit seal. He is set to be arraigned May 2.

The case—which was investigated by the FBI and Department of Defense—highlights the vulnerability of immigrants desperately seeking to belong in a new country and naive to the norms of a society in which, for example, military recruits don't pay to enlist and often receive some financial reward to join.

The case has also shed light on a host of military-style groups catering to Chinese immigrants in the San Gabriel Valley northeast of Los Angeles where members pay dues, dress up in fatigues and promote American patriotism by marching in parades and attending other events.

Deng's attorney Daniel Deng, of no relation, said his client joined one of these military support groups six years ago after he won asylum for facing religious persecution as a Christian.

Several years later, he formed his own unit to give Chinese immigrants a way to show their appreciation for their new country and assimilate into American society. They wore uniforms, engaged in military-style drills, took English classes and amassed close to 1,000 members, he said.

"They joined parades, just like the Salvation Army," Deng said. "He was just a political asylee who was grateful and wanted to do something for the community."

But authorities say Yupeng Deng wasn't just a well-meaning resident trying to show his patriotism.

He staged an office in Temple City to mimic a real recruiting station with a rug featuring the Army seal. Recruits paid $300 to $400 to join, trained using mock weapons and were issued ID cards they were told could help them beat traffic tickets or earn airfare discounts, said Michael Yglecias, head deputy district attorney for Los Angeles County's Pomona branch.

That's how local law enforcement got tipped off.

"Anyone can get their hands on military fatigues or outfits that look like they're military. Anyone can choose to march in unison and drill," Yglecias said. "But he misrepresented to these people what this was and he took their money."

Prosecutors said it is unclear what motivated Deng to form the group, but he doesn't appear to have amassed a fortune even though members paid to enlist, renew their membership and made additional donations to ascend in rank.

The Chinese-language newspaper World Journal started reporting on the phony military groups last year after community members inquired about whether the uniformed members were genuine military.

The groups have participated in flag ceremonies, parades and Chinese New Year celebrations in the San Gabriel Valley, which is home to sizable Chinese-American communities.

Che Cheng, a 76-year-old El Monte resident who asked that his last name not be used out of fear of angering fellow recruits, said he joined an organization similar to Deng's a few years ago and paid $150 to enlist and $800 for a uniform.

Members were told they would be promoted in rank if they recruited more people, he said, but they were also told it wasn't a real U.S. Army unit.

Not so in the case of Deng's group, which marched in a parade in Monterey Park and took a tour of the USS Midway museum in San Diego in uniform, authorities said.

"It is sad that they would prey on people—if it is true," said Assemblyman Mike Eng, a Democrat who represents a cluster of San Gabriel Valley communities including Monterey Park. "I think the immigrants are the victims here and we need to do a better job educating everybody about the proper uses of the uniform."

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Associated Press staffer Roy Wu contributed to this report.
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What a Total Duch Bag...
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Not completely untrue,I trained SP Li personally...............

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So did I!

I think maybe some sailors in San Diego did too.
She needed lots of training.
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Evidently he and his OPERATORS had most of Southern Kalifornicate fooled??



What a Total Duch Bag...
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Nothing that goes down in kalif surprises me...nothing.
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I like the officer's dress greens with CSM rank insignia - must be one of those Sergeant-Major types I've heard rumors of over the years.
Those are specifically made for those officers which feel they know their NCOs job better than they do.
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