04-12-2011, 06:26
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GI Jane for real?
I guess the saying "Life imitates art" turns out to be true
http://ebird.osd.mil/ebfiles/e20110411814319.html
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04-12-2011, 08:41
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Linky no worky without a .mil addy... any help for those of us without?
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04-12-2011, 09:12
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GI JAne
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04-12-2011, 09:24
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Maybe he's awaiting the results of that Australian military gender study. 
Richard 
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04-12-2011, 09:41
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Something behind the story
I see something behind the story that was not fleshed out......
".....“So, that planning is underway in terms of how that would work,” he added. “Part of it is what lessons were learned with women on the SSBNs and the SSGNs. Let’s get a little experience first before we move out on that.”......."
That bit was dropped in the middle of a longer statement but begs the question "Why did you say that? Is there something that has come up about women on SSBNs and SSGNs? What lessons were learned?"
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04-12-2011, 09:50
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What lessons were learned?"
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Don't let them drive the damn things?  
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04-12-2011, 11:15
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Originally Posted by Richard
Maybe he's awaiting the results of that Australian military gender study.
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How about the
....Israeli
.....UK
.....Canadian
.....Germany
.....Russian
....ETC,,ETC... ETC
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04-12-2011, 11:47
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That does it...I'm going to fight to make sure all men have the opportunity to serve on a CST or FET if they feel up to the challenge. For too long already we have been discriminated against simply due to our gender. I can see the press release now... “It’s my notion that men should have the same opportunities as women in the Army.”
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04-12-2011, 18:19
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Hey maybe the started this already with the new AFPT.. or Combat Readiness Test (CRT). I really think people in higher places have been on this downward hill for sometime.
Women in Combat arms??? A good blog LINK here
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04-16-2011, 07:05
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Interesting....how come "combat exclusions" don't apply to female Army, Navy & Airforce combat pilots?
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04-16-2011, 07:18
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Interesting....how come "combat exclusions" don't apply to female Army, Navy & Airforce combat pilots?
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Maybe something to do with all that running and dodging, load-bearing, i'm-up-i'm-seen-i'm-down, rolling in the dirt, closing with and destroying the enemy?
I don't know.
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04-16-2011, 21:08
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Quote:
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Interesting....how come "combat exclusions" don't apply to female Army, Navy & Airforce combat pilots?
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Ground combat.
TR
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04-16-2011, 23:02
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Originally Posted by mpower
Do you think if the navy allows women to become a seal, other services will allow women to become PJ's/line Infantry (Army and marine corps)/Rangers/Army Special Forces/ marine recon/force recon ?
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They call it the Navy because it's not the Army.
The problem isn't that women can't physically do the things required to operate a submarine (That problem had to do with sleeping arrangements) or for that matter do the things required to fly a plane. Even as the SECNAVY acknowledges (you go gurl) the problem may be meeting the physical standard of being a SEAL.
(what, girls can't go to the gym for hours instead of rehearsing actions on the objective?)
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04-17-2011, 05:26
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[QUOTE=Dozer523;386885] Even as the SECNAVY acknowledges (you go gurl) the problem may be meeting the physical standard of being a SEAL.
I don't know about that,especially after seeing Demi doing those "one handed push- ups",can't tell me that broad wasn't in damn good shape.........
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04-17-2011, 07:42
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I found this on a BLACK OPERATOR web site.. It is pro-ported to be the latest version of TRADOC revised Army Physical Fitness Test, as an alternative to station #2 "Individual Movement Techniques"..
http://www.ebaumsworld.com/video/watch/81439935/
The video show a couple recruits and their reactions to the new test..
This alternative should be gender neutered..
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