03-14-2011, 14:39
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3 years out? Back to Basic
This weeks Army Times has an article in the Your Army section (pg 20).
3 years out? Back to Basic
Trying to get in the Army after being out of any service three years or more?
They treat Army and Marine basic/boot camp and Navy/Air Force Special Ops Training as the same. Less than three years good to go - over three years back to basic.
4 week Warrior Transtion Course established 6 years ago to help with Blue to Green is out as of this past Jan 1st. (see above about basic)
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03-14-2011, 14:48
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Pete
This weeks Army Times has an article in the Your Army section (pg 20).
3 years out? Back to Basic
Trying to get in the Army after being out of any service three years or more?
They treat Army and Marine basic/boot camp and Navy/Air Force Special Ops Training as the same. Less than three years good to go - over three years back to basic.
4 week Warrior Transtion Course established 6 years ago to help with Blue to Green is out as of this past Jan 1st. (see above about basic)
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Ah shit,here I was considering going back in again...........  I don't need no stinking basic......... 
Big Teddy 
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03-14-2011, 15:09
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I wonder what they'll do with prior service Guard soldiers who have rank. I went through WTC as a SFC and all the guys heading to SFAS were fellow NCOs. All of us had been drilling with our units prior to attending WTC too.
Personally, the training at WTC could have been done at the unit-level.
I will admit there is a steep learning curve going from a sister service to the Army though. The cadre didn't really appreciate my first time calling cadence. I learned D&C from Marines. 
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03-14-2011, 15:30
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I wish I could go back. They'd never let me try to go through basic, but maybe I could teach the young'uns how to read buffalo shit.
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03-14-2011, 15:54
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They've been making it harder to get back in for the last few years. Especially with the upcoming downsizing. They're also talking about taking the QMP process seriously, which seems to have been broken for my entire military career.
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03-14-2011, 21:57
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I'm kind of interested to see the figures on how many people actually went through basic training twice just to get back in again.
Kind of masochistic. 
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03-15-2011, 01:26
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Dusty
I wish I could go back. They'd never let me try to go through basic, but maybe I could teach the young'uns how to read buffalo shit.
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Dusty,
Didn't you mean how to "eat" buffalo shit!...................
Big Teddy
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I believe that SF is a 'calling' - not too different from the calling missionaries I know received. I knew instantly that it was for me, and that I would do all I could to achieve it. Most others I know in SF experienced something similar. If, as you say, you HAVE searched and read, and you do not KNOW if this is the path for you --- it is not....
Zonie Diver
SF is a calling and it requires commitment and dedication that the uninitiated will never understand......
Jack Moroney
SFA M-2527, Chapter XXXVII
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03-15-2011, 03:07
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Three years out?
I know I could still place an M60 into firing position, draw range cards, fuse a claymore, conduct a successful patrol, call for fire, engage targets at 350M, (open sights), teach assembly and cleaning of an M4, conduct JM duties on aircraft or DZ, load a hard/soft duck for drop, issue weapons to G's, issue cash to assets, retrieve cashe from air drop, write a msg, reply to a msg., get my team beer, pour my CO a drink, (scotch and soda), tell a joke, write a report, shake out my ruck, write a letter to my girl, write another letter to another girl, call a friend, climb a 50' rope, run 6 miles, ruck 20 miles, run another 10 miles, ruck another 12 miles, call my mom, my sister, a buddy in the 180A course, (tell him he's an ass), call my dad. All of this in a 24 hour period.
Tell me, what Basic trainee could do that?
I'm with Dusty, shit, it's tough getting old.
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03-15-2011, 04:41
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Originally Posted by greenberetTFS
Dusty,
Didn't you mean how to "eat" buffalo shit!...................
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Uh, no, Big Teddy. I actually meant "read", not "eat".
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03-15-2011, 11:43
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I've eatin Buffalo shit.
Well, it was airborne dust, heavy and thick. I've also eatin cow shit, horse shit, sheep and goat shit, pig shit, and the biker-type ex GF feed me dog shit once. Never tried cat shit, or snake shit. But I can really tell when someone is pitching bull shit!!!
Horse shit is still my favorite.
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03-15-2011, 11:52
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Quote:
Originally Posted by wet dog
I've eatin Buffalo shit.
Well, it was airborne dust, heavy and thick. I've also eatin cow shit, horse shit, sheep and goat shit, pig shit, and the biker-type ex GF feed me dog shit once. Never tried cat shit, or snake shit. But I can really tell when someone is pitching bull shit!!!
Horse shit is still my favorite.
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And I suspect that ain't no shit!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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03-15-2011, 12:08
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And I suspect that ain't no shit!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
But having to go thru Basic after a three break, really?
I'd opt for at the unit level, 2 week, round robin, task orientation(s).
Place NBC mask, load weapon, shoot, run, ruck, swim, APFT, get a hair cut, (maybe), dog tags, medical record review, shots in ass, etc. Load truck, unload truck, load aircraft, jump into Infil scenario, no, jump or fast rope into Cleveland, Ohio, aid in rescue efforts of women/child, and the old who are caught in Japanese style Nuclear danger areas.
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03-15-2011, 12:40
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Quote:
Originally Posted by wet dog
Place NBC mask, load weapon, shoot, run, ruck, swim, APFT, get a hair cut, (maybe), dog tags, medical record review, shots in ass, etc. Load truck, unload truck, load aircraft, jump into Infil scenario,...
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You old guys are so cute...here's where the real training is...
Prevention of Sexual Harassment
Suicide Awareness Prevention Training
Threat Awareness and Reporting Program
Substance Abuse Training
Family Advocacy Program Training
MS Office and Outlook Classes
Defense Travel System Training
I could go on...but by now you've probably lost your lunch.
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03-15-2011, 13:16
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Originally Posted by 1stindoor
You old guys are so cute...here's where the real training is...
Prevention of Sexual Harassment
Suicide Awareness Prevention Training
Threat Awareness and Reporting Program
Substance Abuse Training
Family Advocacy Program Training
MS Office and Outlook Classes
Defense Travel System Training
I could go on...but by now you've probably lost your lunch.
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And today's favorite at my location...
Repeal of DADT
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03-15-2011, 13:30
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We haven't started it yet...so I didn't include it. But yeah...that one too.
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