01-22-2011, 07:24
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Congresswoman to Pack Heat
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01-22-2011, 09:38
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She needs a bodyguard, I'll let her know I'm available.... 
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01-22-2011, 10:08
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I would enjoy being Florida AG Pam Bondi's bodyguard.
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01-22-2011, 11:02
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Doesn't announcing it in the media of defeat the whole purpose of carrying concealed? I guess she is a pol and the message comes first but if it was really a security issue than why tell every loon out there what you're doing?
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01-22-2011, 11:15
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Originally Posted by rubberneck
Doesn't announcing it in the media of defeat the whole purpose of carrying concealed? I guess she is a pol and the message comes first but if it was really a security issue than why tell every loon out there what you're doing?
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I think all congress-critters should open carry while in chambers..
Might encourage a few to compromise more often????
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01-22-2011, 11:30
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If they were held to the same standard as the average citizen, I am wondering how many of the critters would qualify for a permit. 
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01-22-2011, 11:54
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I think all congress-critters should open carry while in chambers..
Might encourage a few to compromise more often????
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LOL..
I can see the AD's at the clearing barrel already... 
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01-22-2011, 12:53
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If they were held to the same standard as the average citizen, I am wondering how many of the critters would qualify for a permit. |
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I believe that only the police and government should be allowed to have firearms.
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In the past, many of them didn't believe they were to be held to the same standard......
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“Since I’m an elected official of the United States, I deserve the right to protect myself and my family”.
Ted Kennedy stated after his bodyguard was busted for an unlicensed firearm.
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Perhaps this new Republican and her colleques can buck the long standing Democrat double standard..........read here
I too am wondering how many of the critters would qualify for a permit, maybe someday we'll find out....jd
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01-22-2011, 13:06
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I'll bet ya a large pizza that after what happened in Tucson a few more congressmembers or least some of their entourage will be packin'
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01-22-2011, 17:04
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Doesn't announcing it in the media of defeat the whole purpose of carrying concealed? I guess she is a pol and the message comes first but if it was really a security issue than why tell every loon out there what you're doing?
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Knowing she packing will put a tiny bit of doubt in their mind and maybe give pause to anyone that might wish to do her harm.
When I was the American Ambassadors bodyguard I carried in the "open" the rest of the State Dept guys carried concealed. Trust me, people stayed back and crowds opened.
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01-23-2011, 09:37
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There will certainly be some level of deterrent factor, however, i do not believe this is a viable solution.
An example is a former Israeli general who at the time of his assassination was a government minister but still a general in reserves. It was made public that he refused ISA (Israel Security Agency) protection and that e carried a Micro-Uzi.
Some background. http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2001/oct/17/israel2
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01-23-2011, 09:54
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In a "Free" country there's no level of "protection" that will stop a determined adversary. (Especially if that individual is prepared to swap his life for his victims.)
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01-23-2011, 09:54
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Originally Posted by hoepoe
There will certainly be some level of deterrent factor, however, i do not believe this is a viable solution.
An example is a former Israeli general who at the time of his assassination was a government minister but still a general in reserves. It was made public that he refused ISA (Israel Security Agency) protection and that e carried a Micro-Uzi.
Some background. http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2001/oct/17/israel2
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You lost me on that one; are you saying carrying a concealed handgun is not a viable solution to avoid assassination?
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01-23-2011, 10:18
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Originally Posted by hoepoe
There will certainly be some level of deterrent factor, however, i do not believe this is a viable solution.
An example is a former Israeli general who at the time of his assassination was a government minister but still a general in reserves. It was made public that he refused ISA (Israel Security Agency) protection and that e carried a Micro-Uzi.
Some background. http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2001/oct/17/israel2
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For an at risk politician, it’s not a solution? It certainly is one important piece to what are hopefully several COAs for self preservation. Any deterrent is valued over none though. If facing a crackpot it may not be much of a deterrent and she'd need to rely upon other options such as her security personnel, or her own abilities. Problem is though for an assassin who is willing to die to get his target, presumably like the one who killed the general, you'd better keep a good security detail, have SA, and be quicker on the draw when needed. Especialy if you're a high value target. Something the General failed to do...jd
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01-23-2011, 10:24
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