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Old 01-01-2011, 11:37   #1
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The Constitution "Has no Binding Power on Anything."

Ezra Klein also states the Constitution is 'confusing because it was written more than a 100 years ago." Mr. Klein started the now defunct e-mail list, Journolist.

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I wonder how many of our fellow citizens share this view of our constitution?
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Old 01-01-2011, 11:50   #2
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I wonder how many of our fellow citizens share this view of our constitution?
More liberals than I care to think of....all the ones I know. I find it ironic that these same folks whom find the Constitution a stupid artifact are allowed to do what they do because of it. I would conclude that without the Constitution, it is likely Ezra Klein's gene pool would have ended in oven.
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Old 01-01-2011, 12:04   #3
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I would conclude that without the Constitution, it is likely Ezra Klein's gene pool would have ended in oven.
The 'logic' of this conclusion is elusive.

My $0.02.
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Wonder if he feels the Bill of Rights is confusing or outdated as well? Or how about the Declaration of Independence?

Lil twerp is exactly what klein is...
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Old 01-01-2011, 13:07   #5
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Klein and his ilk really just want to pick and choose. Some parts they like and others not so much. How far have we all let the Federal Government go beyond the 18 enumerated powers? Can we get the snake back in the box? We could start the the Dept of HEW.
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Old 01-01-2011, 13:08   #6
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FWIW, Mr. Klein has posted a clarification of his remarks here.
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FWIW, Mr. Klein has posted a clarification of his remarks here.
Clarification huh...

He is still a lil piss ant...
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Old 01-01-2011, 15:39   #8
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Klein stain

I saw Klein's comments earlier this morning and chose not post so as to not potentially disrupt an otherwise wonderful day and my wonderful meal.

Now, that the little Klein stain is out of the bottle (closet, whatever) so to speak;

I will borrow from another oft used post on this board...regarding Klein's original comments that are the subject of this thread -- as well as his his follow up...all I can say (that is fit for print, is)...astounding.

p.s. My sincere apologies to stains of all manner, shape, form, everywhere. This comment takes up more bandwidth than Klein deserves...but helps me digest a wonderfully prepared meal a little bit better after listening to this little stain's drivel about the Constitution.

Now, please pass me another piece of that delicious standing rib roast beast. Thank you.

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Old 01-01-2011, 19:16   #9
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The 'logic' of this conclusion is elusive.

My $0.02.
Without a Constitution there would be no United States. And without the United States the outcome of WWII and Ezra Klein would likely have been quite different. So Ezra Klein (as do we all) likely owes his existence to some dumb old men who wrote that stupid scrap of parchment called The US Constitution.

Were would we all be if they stopped with the Articles of Confederation.


It is that simple.....in my mind, which likely defies logic....but then again I ain't Mr. Spock
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FWIW, Mr. Klein has posted a clarification of his remarks here.
Whenever these fascists (note the lowercase "f") say what they really think in an unguarded moment, they have to say "that's not what I really said."

Of course they think the Constitution isn't binding. They ignore the parts they hate and add things that aren't there.

Take three minutes and listen to the Majority Whip of the House of Representatives argue that they don't need the authority of the Constitution to do anything. LINK
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Old 01-01-2011, 21:55   #11
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If the Constitution is "fundamentally flawed to this day", why on earth would any sincere person take an oath to preserve, defend, and uphold it...

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Old 01-01-2011, 22:22   #12
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No He's the confused one.
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Old 01-01-2011, 23:20   #13
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Without a Constitution there would be no United States. And without the United States the outcome of WWII and Ezra Klein would likely have been quite different. So Ezra Klein (as do we all) likely owes his existence to some dumb old men who wrote that stupid scrap of parchment called The US Constitution.

Were would we all be if they stopped with the Articles of Confederation.


It is that simple.....in my mind, which likely defies logic....but then again I ain't Mr. Spock
  • Would there have been a Second World War at all without a United States to intervene in the Great War?
  • Do not Europeans (and others) owe their existence to their own efforts against the enemy to which you allude?
  • Are you sure that we don't owe our existence to those Americans who opposed slavery--an institution that the Constitution enshrined?
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"Slavery...an institution that the Constitution enshrined"?
Enshrined - to preserve, cherish as sacred, consecrate, idolize, sanctify...

Enshrined not really...

"In order to get the unified support needed for the Constitution's ratification and successful establishment, the framers made certain concessions to the pro-slavery interests. The compromises they agreed to, however, were designed to tolerate slavery where it currently existed, not to endorse or advance the institution"

"It was purposely so framed as to give no claim, no sanction to the claim, of property in man. If in its origin slavery had any relation to the government, it was only as the scaffolding to the magnificent structure, to be removed as soon as the building was completed"

"It is significant to note that the words "slave" and "slavery" were kept out of the Constitution"

"John Adams opposed slavery his entire life as a "foul contagion in the human character" and "an evil of colossal magnitude." James Madison called it "the most oppressive dominion ever exercised by man over man."

"That doesn't sound as though slavery were cherished or santified by at least some of the Founding Fathers. Rather, it was acknowledged as an evil, an issue that needed to be avoided to ensure the building of a nation"

"...our Constitution did not enshrine slavery. The practice was in no way cherished or sanctified. Acknowledging that it was reluctantly tolerated so that the nation could be formed is closer to the truth"

Source: http://www.heritage.org/Research/Rep...y-and-Americas
http://newsbusters.org/blogs/michael...s-constitution

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I'd like to go 3 five-minute rounds with Klein and test his constitution.
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