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Old 12-24-2010, 07:18   #1
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Iraqi Kills Daughter Recruited As al-Qaida Bomber

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Iraqi Kills Daughter Recruited As al-Qaida Bomber
AP, 24 Dec 2010

An Iraqi man killed his 19-year-old daughter after he discovered al-Qaida had recruited her as a suicide bomber in an area north of Baghdad, a police spokesman said on Friday.

Al-Qaida has been recruiting women for suicide attacks because they can pass police checkpoints easier than men by concealing explosives under an abaya, a loose, black cloak that conservative Muslim women wear. Suicide bombers have been al-Qaida's most lethal weapon in Iraq, killing hundreds of civilians and members of Iraq's security forces.

The killing of the young woman was discovered when security forces, searching for her on suspicion she had ties to al-Qaida, raided her father's home Thursday outside the former Sunni-insurgent stronghold of Baqouba, 35 miles (60 kilometers) northeast of Baghdad, said Maj. Ghalib al-Karkhi, a police spokesman in Diyala province.

The father, Najim al-Anbaky, was detained in the raid. During questioning he told police he had killed his daughter, Shahlaa, a month earlier because he found out she intended to blow herself up in a suicide attack for al-Qaida, al-Karkhi told The Associated Press.

Al-Anbaky showed police what he said was the woman's grave, al-Karkhi said. The father remains in custody and is under investgiation, but no charges have been made yet.

A police official at the interior ministry in Baghdad confirmed the killing. He spoke to the AP on condition of anonymity because he was not authorized to speak to the media.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20101224/..._mi_ea/ml_iraq
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Old 12-25-2010, 06:42   #2
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Well, maybe there's hope. I don't know about killing her, turning her in , ok, but killing her??? I suppose that rates up there with dating an infedel, or non-believer I suppose..

I know it's pretty emotional there, hopefully more Iraqi citizens will turn on the evil doers??

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Old 12-25-2010, 09:27   #3
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One gets the feeling there is more to story. Killing her seems a little extreme.
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Old 12-25-2010, 09:52   #4
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One gets the feeling there is more to story. Killing her seems a little extreme.
Consider it in the context of the culture.
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Old 12-25-2010, 10:59   #5
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Consider it in the context of the culture.
I don't believe I have the knowledge and or the ability to consider this in the context of their culture. I guess I'm not really sure what you mean by this statement. Are you implying that this is a reasonable reaction based upon the Iraqi culture?

We read often of "honor killing" within the Muslim community. The actions of daughters leading to or justifying these honor killings are varied. Are you considering this an honor killing?

A while back I saw a documentary on female suicide bombers. It was the position of the producer that most females who became suicide bombers had one or both of the following characteristics: 1) unhappily married due to extreme maltreatment of their husband or 2) A daughter in a family where family loyalty to Islam had been questioned. The daughter becoming a bomber cleansed the family name so to speak.

In the case in question, what little facts available run counter to my understanding of the norm. Likewise, an Iraqi who rejects al-Qaida would seem to me someone who is maybe less fundamental and more enlightened. When we look at the "awakening" the sunni tribes people were rejecting the actions of the al-Qaida folks due partially to their violent nature. It would seem this father who rejected al-Qaida would also reject killing his own daughter when other recourse may be more appropriate.

Perhaps, Wolf07, you can enlighten me on the cultural support for this killing.
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Old 12-25-2010, 12:08   #6
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I don't believe I have the knowledge and or the ability to consider this in the context of their culture. I guess I'm not really sure what you mean by this statement. Are you implying that this is a reasonable reaction based upon the Iraqi culture?

We read often of "honor killing" within the Muslim community. The actions of daughters leading to or justifying these honor killings are varied. Are you considering this an honor killing?

A while back I saw a documentary on female suicide bombers. It was the position of the producer that most females who became suicide bombers had one or both of the following characteristics: 1) unhappily married due to extreme maltreatment of their husband or 2) A daughter in a family where family loyalty to Islam had been questioned. The daughter becoming a bomber cleansed the family name so to speak.

In the case in question, what little facts available run counter to my understanding of the norm. Likewise, an Iraqi who rejects al-Qaida would seem to me someone who is maybe less fundamental and more enlightened. When we look at the "awakening" the sunni tribes people were rejecting the actions of the al-Qaida folks due partially to their violent nature. It would seem this father who rejected al-Qaida would also reject killing his own daughter when other recourse may be more appropriate.

Perhaps, Wolf07, you can enlighten me on the cultural support for this killing.
Her accepting al-Qaida's philosophies or methods have already proven she is not accepting the norms and customers of that culture. Recruitment is up accross the board. Radicalism or Fundamentalism, both 180 degrees opposed to each other, have similar methodologies, that is, they do not fit within the 90% of what the base wishes, wants, needs or desires. In the end they only want power for themselves.

Him killing his child only resulted in saving the lives of many. I on the other hand feel he should have turned her over to the authorities, intel, on al-Qiada leadership, handlers, etc. But she would have been released at some point, and she would have eventually done what her assignment was but probably on a bigger target.

The father used the "honor" killing as an out for his actions.

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Consider it in the context of the culture.
It is a different culture, with a different value to life. IMHO as Dennisw posted, do we really have sufficient knowledge of what came to pass in this instance, or if she or anyone is in the mentioned grave? If the act was entirely reasonable in that culture, why the need to implicate AQ? Why not just say look she was hanging out with a boy from the wrong side of the tracks, she disgraced us, so as a father I exercised my right to honor killing. None of us know what happened here, it could be as reported, though my question for the experienced LEO here how often do such instances fit into neat little packages?
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