Ipick-Pockets..

JJ_BPK · 12-06-2010, 16:57

With a little help, you to can be a pick-pocket..

http://www.wreg.com/videobeta/?watch...a-1884ec348310

Guess I need more tin foil??

Jgood · 12-06-2010, 18:48

was on a epsiode of NCIS a few weeks ago lol

akv · 12-06-2010, 21:03

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Originally Posted by JJ_BPK

Guess I need more tin foil??

IIRC this is one of the reasons the credit card companies went to the three number security code, though folks have been arguing the pros and cons of RFID chips for decades. A tin foil like sheath isn't a bad idea. RFID technology is good on a dog collar if Fido goes missing, but also like most new technology is vulnerable for nefarious uses.

There was talk a few years back of embedding large denomination Euro bills with RFID chips to stifle counterfeiting, however someone pointed out, it would make it very convenient for muggers with a sensor to know who was worth robbing. Then there are some people who just don't want a chip retailers, marketers, or the government can track.

perdurabo · 12-06-2010, 22:05

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Originally Posted by akv

Then there are some people just don't want a chip retailers, marketers, or the government can track.

Seems like "we" really don't have a choice. Passive (as opposed to active) RFID tag prices are dropping. NFC (Near Field Communication, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Near_field_communication) hardware will likely be in damn near every cell phone in 2011.

I'm pretty certain the industry hasn't learned anything from early Bluetooth vulnerabilities and emerging RFID vulnerabilities and we'll go through the same mistakes all over again.

One guy demonstrated on video grabbing passport data from "passive" RFID chips from 30 feet away using a parked car and passerbys on the sidewalk in downtown SFO (http://www.papersplease.org/wp/2009/...assport-cards/).

Carrying cash around is looking more and more attractive, again. All of this can be exploited by a hobbyist with approximately $150.

Irishsquid · 12-27-2010, 13:01

Absolutely nothing new about RFID or RFID vulnerabilities. Some military ID card facilities are now giving a small "tin-foil," pouch to keep your CAC in for this very reason.

kgoerz · 12-27-2010, 14:01

I started using those aluminum card holders a year ago. I use them to protect the cards from damage. Never knew I was RFID Safe.

zauber1 · 12-27-2010, 20:34

There has been some talk in the LE circles that I run in about chipping sex offenders, in particlular those that target children. The thought is that if they got too near playgrounds, elementary schools, etc. the sensor could warn patrol officers and prevent another offense.

If they tried to circumvent this, we'd just look for the skulkers at the perimeter of the playground with the tin fiol wrapped around the back of their neck (suggested implantation location.)

Irishsquid · 12-28-2010, 07:38

Shouldn't be difficult to beat AT ALL, without being too physically noticeable. I won't go into it on an open internet forum, though, as I don't want this to become "how to beat the police RFID chips 101," for pedos.

I would find a better way...that's all I'm saying. As easy as it is to steal data from an RFID chip, it's even easier to shield one.

kollkash · 02-03-2011, 06:36

Here's a link to a Press Release released by a company called Peratech, which says they have a solution for the RFID vulnerability of these chips. Their solution involves embedding a button on the card, passport, or ID. One then needs to press the button in order to "activate" the RFID chip. The release is from August 2008, so I don't know where this technology stands now. Here's the full Press Release:

http://www.peratech.com/pr_rfid.php

I'd go with the aluminum wallet solution just to be safe.