12-01-2010, 06:41
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American Indians In The US Army
For those who were not aware of it, November was National Native American Heritage Month and the US Army has a site dedicated to the topic.
Focus is on the Comanche Code Talkers of WW1/WW2 and MOH awardees (including Van Barfoot, the retired COL who was in a fight with his HOA over his flag pole), but also includes some ROK, RVN, current Native Americans serving.
The RESOURCES page offers some good links for those interested in the subject.
http://www.army.mil/americanindians/index.html
Richard
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12-01-2010, 08:40
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"Van Barfoot was a Choctaw Indian from Mississippi, and a second lieutenant in the Thunderbirds. On May 23, 1944, during the breakout from Anzio to Rome, Barfoot knocked out two machine gun nests and captured 17 German soldiers. Later that same day, he repelled a German tank assault, destroyed a Nazi fieldpiece and while returning to camp carried two wounded commanders to safety."
An excerpt from the site. The honored members section has great material on a few guys. One of my best friends is a Navajo, and his family has a long tradition of service as well.
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12-01-2010, 09:31
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Thanks for the link Richard.
Being a member of the 45th, and father to 3 Comanche boys, I enjoy taking my kids up to the complex and showing them the veteran's memorial. They have a really awesome statue of a Comanche code talker with a "spirit warrior" whispering in his ear, and monuments with the names of Comanche veterans. It can be pretty humbling.
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12-01-2010, 09:58
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FWIW and some may not know - the 'crossed arrows' branch insignia inherited by SF were the insignia originally worn by the Indian scouts of the US Army - they had a USS (US Scouts) on them but it was removed when the insignia was resurrected for use by the FSSF in WW2 and then for SF today.
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“Almost any sect, cult, or religion will legislate its creed into law if it acquires the political power to do so.” - Robert Heinlein
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12-01-2010, 10:23
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My father adopted a young Navajo boy, aged 11, when I was just 6. One day I just had a big brother. He served in the US Navy, married, returned to the Houke, AZ area, raised 3 children, all who have finished college. Grandchildren are now beginning to show up. He is a tribal Elder and singer, responsible to teaching young people old native ways, (sign, legends, etc.). His wife, also, a college grad teaches grade 6-12. In Kayenta, AZ - their is a USMC Code Talker museum. Exhibits are from the south pacific, captured Japanese weaponry, US radios, endless photographs.
If anyone is traveling to the canyon lands or parks out west this spring/summer - record Kayenta, AZ as a point to visit.
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12-01-2010, 14:44
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Originally Posted by wet dog
In Kayenta, AZ - their is a USMC Code Talker museum. Exhibits are from the south pacific, captured Japanese weaponry, US radios, endless photographs.
If anyone is traveling to the canyon lands or parks out west this spring/summer - record Kayenta, AZ as a point to visit.
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The exhibit is at the Burger King.
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Have a friend/coworker who grew up in Monument Valley in the Navajo Nation.
Joined the Marine Corps out of high school.
Received meritorious service promotions to E-3 by 6 months, to E-5 by 2 1/2 years.
Selected for the recon platoon in his battalion, combat veteran in Kuwait and Somalia.
Takes November 11th off every year.
Being a veteran is his proudest accomplishment.
About half my work is done in the Navajo Nation.
You can see in the yards, on the vehicles, and on the apparel; a fierce sense of patriotism, other disagreements with the government notwithstanding.
Veterans there are always highly honored.
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12-01-2010, 15:14
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Thanks Richard..
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12-01-2010, 16:40
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Great stuff. As a Navajo and now working back in the Reservation area I have the chance to help with a few Code Talkers (they are dwindling) and have run into quite a few Vietnam era vets. Always a privledge to help one of our brothers.
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12-01-2010, 17:36
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Great stuff, Richard! Thanks for posting.
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12-01-2010, 18:33
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The exhibit is at the Burger King.
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Have a friend/coworker who grew up in Monument Valley in the Navajo Nation.
Joined the Marine Corps out of high school.
Received meritorious service promotions to E-3 by 6 months, to E-5 by 2 1/2 years.
Selected for the recon platoon in his battalion, combat veteran in Kuwait and Somalia.
Takes November 11th off every year.
Being a veteran is his proudest accomplishment.
About half my work is done in the Navajo Nation.
You can see in the yards, on the vehicles, and on the apparel; a fierce sense of patriotism, other disagreements with the government notwithstanding.
Veterans there are always highly honored.
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It is said that the Navajo nation has saved America on more than one occasion.
Notwithstanding, I propose turning loose all native brothers to dawn their war shirts and begin outting, taking scalps and hanging hides of groups willing to do us harm, but that's just me.
Doo hak'eh hoodez gl"ee da' nah 'ah baad di
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12-01-2010, 19:38
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It is said that the Navajo nation has saved America on more than one occasion.
Notwithstanding, I propose turning loose all native brothers to dawn their war shirts and begin outting, taking scalps and hanging hides of groups willing to do us harm, but that's just me.
Doo hak'eh hoodez gl"ee da' nah 'ah baad di
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12-04-2010, 03:44
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This thread reminded me of Roy Benavidez who was a Yaqui indian. Apparently the tribe is closely related to the Apache, and shared a similar reputation.
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12-04-2010, 09:12
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It is said that the Navajo nation has saved America on more than one occasion.
Notwithstanding, I propose turning loose all native brothers to dawn their war shirts and begin outting, taking scalps and hanging hides of groups willing to do us harm, but that's just me.
Doo hak'eh hoodez gl"ee da' nah 'ah baad di
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12-04-2010, 09:52
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...all native brothers to dawn* their war shirts...
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Are you saying they need to wash their war shirts with the dishes as the sun comes up?
Richard
* - ' don' - to put on (a garment, etc.); dress in (a certain color or material)
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12-06-2010, 22:47
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Notwithstanding, I propose turning loose all native brothers to dawn their war shirts and begin outting, taking scalps and hanging hides of groups willing to do us harm, but that's just me.
Doo hak'eh hoodez gl"ee da' nah 'ah baad di
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Careful, they might decide to reinterpret "groups willing to do us harm" as those who have done us harm as one in the same.
Nevertheless, who is to blame them?
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