10-31-2010, 19:45
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carrying a 1911 is NOISY?
OK, so I recently started carrying a Para-Ordinance Blackwatch Commander 1911 (3.5in) LDA.
The thing has a grip safety on it, and every time I take a step the damn thing rattles like a set of keys hanging off my belt.
This is my first "carry" 1911 with a grip safety so I don't know if this is a "normal" thing or not. Makes me wonder why I wanted to switch from my HK to begin with 
Educated opinions welcomed.
Eagle
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10-31-2010, 20:08
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Eagle5US
OK, so I recently started carrying a Para-Ordinance Blackwatch Commander 1911 (3.5in) LDA.
The thing has a grip safety on it, and every time I take a step the damn thing rattles like a set of keys hanging off my belt.
This is my first "carry" 1911 with a grip safety so I don't know if this is a "normal" thing or not. Makes me wonder why I wanted to switch from my HK to begin with
Educated opinions welcomed.
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Eagle:
I am not a gunsmith, but I always thought my sear spring kept the 1911 grip safety under tension.
I could be wrong though.
TR
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10-31-2010, 20:12
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Agree...sounds like the safety spring....
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10-31-2010, 20:13
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Thank you Gentlemen,
I'll look into it.
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Ain't no one getting out of this world alive. All you can do is try to have some choice in the way you go. Prepare yourself (and your affairs), and when your number is up, die on your feet fighting rather than on your knees. And make the SOBs pay dearly."
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10-31-2010, 20:31
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Not familiar with how that particular grip safety is designed, but it it's "floppy" in any way something is wrong.
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10-31-2010, 20:41
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Not familiar with how that particular grip safety is designed, but it it's "floppy" in any way something is wrong.
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There is about 1mm of lever action movement pivoting from grip safety to the thumb flare.
Just enough to friggin rattle. 
Eagle
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"I have hung out in dangerous places a lot over the years, from combat zones to biker bars, and it is the weak, the unaware, or those looking for it, that usually find trouble.
Ain't no one getting out of this world alive. All you can do is try to have some choice in the way you go. Prepare yourself (and your affairs), and when your number is up, die on your feet fighting rather than on your knees. And make the SOBs pay dearly."
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10-31-2010, 20:43
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I'd give Para-Ordinance a call.
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10-31-2010, 21:28
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I just sent them an e-mail.
A little "googleing" shows this to be a common thng for folks to "notice" after they start carrying the LDA (Light Double Action) and the "common fix" of the sear spring as noted above doesn't work because the sear spring itself is not that of a traditional 1911. That being the case, there is also no "fix" on the internet that I have been able to find this evening
We'll see what they say. I am becoming more and more disenchanted with Para...I ordered a 14-45 Custom from them in DECEMBER of last year with a delivery date in May...still waiting
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"I have hung out in dangerous places a lot over the years, from combat zones to biker bars, and it is the weak, the unaware, or those looking for it, that usually find trouble.
Ain't no one getting out of this world alive. All you can do is try to have some choice in the way you go. Prepare yourself (and your affairs), and when your number is up, die on your feet fighting rather than on your knees. And make the SOBs pay dearly."
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10-31-2010, 22:21
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1911, LOLOLOLOLOLOL.
(Get a real gun.)
Remember the 1911 was "state of the art" 99 years ago.
Grip safety, LOL.
And you switched from an HK? LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL. 
You made my day.
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10-31-2010, 22:36
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Just diversifying my options is all. 
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"I have hung out in dangerous places a lot over the years, from combat zones to biker bars, and it is the weak, the unaware, or those looking for it, that usually find trouble.
Ain't no one getting out of this world alive. All you can do is try to have some choice in the way you go. Prepare yourself (and your affairs), and when your number is up, die on your feet fighting rather than on your knees. And make the SOBs pay dearly."
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11-01-2010, 11:41
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grip safety
TS: Hope you don't go against the guy who only owns a single 1911.
Eagle: Note JB dropped the grip safety on the BHP. I like to pin them on my personal 1911's
PS: I hate aluminum framed guns, plastic especially so; STEEL FOREVER!!!
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11-01-2010, 20:13
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Quote:
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TS: Hope you don't go against the guy who only owns a single 1911.Eagle: Note JB dropped the grip safety on the BHP. I like to pin them on my personal 1911's
PS: I hate aluminum framed guns, plastic especially so; STEEL FOREVER!!!
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I have "one" too, a non-working piece. I keep it for laughs....
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11-02-2010, 08:07
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Tupperware
I always thought it fitting glock supplied their guns in tupperware boxes...
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11-02-2010, 09:02
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Mine is not noisy
Mine is not noisy.
Then again it is a 70 series. Does that make it vintage?
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11-02-2010, 09:45
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My 1911 rides comfortably, as does the old 67 International truck.
I'm betting both will still be working long after the tupperware issued plastic guns, Prius and other hybrid cars are returned to the earth by way of land fill.
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