Go Back   Professional Soldiers ® > At Ease > General Discussions

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 10-12-2010, 15:57   #1
SouthernDZ
Quiet Professional
 
SouthernDZ's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Texas
Posts: 656
Daredevil Plunge From Outer Space Put on Hold

I'd have to give this some thought first....


http://www.foxnews.com/scitech/2010/...e-outer-space/

Skydiving is dangerous. Skydiving from a plane in outer space is worse. But it's the lawsuits that'll really kill you, it seems.

For years, an Austrian daredevil named Felix Baumgartner has been planning to take a 23-mile plunge from the edge of space -- and in the process, become the first parachutist to break the sound barrier, plummeting toward the ground at 760 miles per hour. The engineers and scientists behind The Red Bull Stratos project, an effort to break the record for the highest freefall ever, billed the jump as more than a stunt. The leap from 120,000 feet was to yield volumes of data that would have been used to develop advanced life support systems for future pilots, astronauts, and even space tourists.

But a promoter feels that the jump was his idea, and filed a lawsuit in April to prevent the event from taking place. Daniel Hogan claims that Red Bull stole confidential plans he had developed for the stunt, which he pitched as “SpaceDive” to Red Bull in 2004. Due to the ongoing lawsuit, Red Bull has been forced to suspend the mission -- and put on hold Baumgartner's jump.

"Despite the fact that many other people over the past 50 years have tried to break Colonel (Ret.) Joe Kittinger's record, and that other individuals have sought to work with Red Bull in an attempt to break his record, Mr. Hogan claims to own certain rights to the project and filed a multimillion-dollar lawsuit earlier this year in a Californian court," Red Bull wrote in a statement about the change.

"Red Bull has acted appropriately in its prior dealings with Mr. Hogan, and will demonstrate this as the case progresses. Due to the lawsuit, we have decided to stop the project until this case has been resolved."

In his complaint in Los Angeles Superior Court, Hogan claims the daredevil stunt would be worth $375 million to $625 million in advertising to any corporate sponsor.

What would it have felt like for Baumgartner to open the hatch of the custom space gondola suspended below the weather balloon that would have taken him to space? What would it have felt like to step out into 23 miles of nothingness?

"For about the first 30 seconds he's not going to feel anything," Mike Todd, a life-support engineer at Sage Cheshire Aerospace and a member of the Red Bull Stratos team, told FoxNews.com earlier this year. This is particularly dangerous because, even though the air is so thin that it won't feel like he's even falling, Baumgartner needed to get into exactly the right position -- the so-called delta position -- to attain the speed he wanted and simultaneously survive the five-and-a-half-minute descent.

Todd said Baumgartner would reach Mach1 somewhere between 100,000 and 90,000 feet. But it wouldn't have been overly uncomfortable, due to the thin air. At that altitude, Todd said, "It will feel like putting your hand out the window of a car going 35 mph."

Unfortunately, we may never know. Red Bull claimed it had merely suspended the project, rather than outright canceling it, but only time and the judges will tell. Daniel Hogan was unavailable for comment.
SouthernDZ is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-12-2010, 17:19   #2
Pete
Quiet Professional
 
Pete's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: Fayetteville
Posts: 13,080
Nothing of nothing is....

Nothing of nothing is - nothing.

Maybe he would like to volunteer to wear the suit and make the jump?
Pete is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-12-2010, 17:31   #3
Utah Bob
Quiet Professional
 
Utah Bob's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: 11 miles from Dove Creek, Colorady
Posts: 3,924
Joe Kittinger continues to reign supreme.
__________________
"...But if it be a sin to covet honour,
I am the most offending soul alive."
Shakespeare - Henry V
Lazy Bob Ranch
Utah Bob is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-12-2010, 17:53   #4
The Reaper
Quiet Professional
 
The Reaper's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: Free Pineland
Posts: 24,813
Quote:
Originally Posted by Utah Bob View Post
Joe Kittinger continues to reign supreme.
And I am glad.

TR
__________________
"It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles, or where the doer of deeds could have done them better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood; who strives valiantly; who errs, who comes short again and again, because there is no effort without error and shortcoming; but who does actually strive to do the deeds; who knows great enthusiasms, the great devotions; who spends himself in a worthy cause; who at the best knows in the end the triumph of high achievement, and who at the worst, if he fails, at least fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who neither know victory nor defeat." - President Theodore Roosevelt, 1910

De Oppresso Liber 01/20/2025
The Reaper is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-13-2010, 00:41   #5
rdret1
Quiet Professional
 
rdret1's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: Wilson,NC
Posts: 1,506
Everybody wants a piece of the pie. I need to find something to sue someone for so I can make some money too.
__________________
"Solitude is strength; to depend on the presence of the crowd is weakness. The man who needs a mob to nerve him is much more alone than he imagines."

~ Paul Brunton (1898-1981)



R.D. Winters
rdret1 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-07-2012, 04:20   #6
Pete
Quiet Professional
 
Pete's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: Fayetteville
Posts: 13,080
Skydiver to jump from edge of space in record bid

Skydiver to jump from edge of space in record bid

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-16922438

An Austrian adventurer is making the final preparations to jump from the very edge of space.

Felix Baumgartner will leap from a balloon 23 miles high at the very point where the atmosphere ends and space begins.

Pallab Ghosh reports.


Video at link - looks to be a go.
Pete is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-07-2012, 05:25   #7
Guymullins
Guerrilla Chief
 
Guymullins's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2011
Location: South Africa
Posts: 911
Joe Kittinger may have broken sound barrier

Although Joe Kittinger deployed a drogue-chute immediatly after exit (so cant claim the worlds longets free-fall) he may have broken the speed of sound in his decent. His speed was not accurately measured and his drogue was not large enough to materially slow him at the higher altitude in his jump.
Guymullins is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-07-2012, 06:45   #8
greenberetTFS
Quiet Professional (RIP)
 
greenberetTFS's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2007
Location: Carriere,Ms.
Posts: 6,922
Quote:
Originally Posted by rdret1 View Post
Everybody wants a piece of the pie. I need to find something to sue someone for so I can make some money too.
Try this.......I'm thinking of suing PS.com for hurting my feelings by telling me to SEARCH first before I do any posting's.......

Big Teddy
__________________
I believe that SF is a 'calling' - not too different from the calling missionaries I know received. I knew instantly that it was for me, and that I would do all I could to achieve it. Most others I know in SF experienced something similar. If, as you say, you HAVE searched and read, and you do not KNOW if this is the path for you --- it is not....
Zonie Diver

SF is a calling and it requires commitment and dedication that the uninitiated will never understand......
Jack Moroney

SFA M-2527, Chapter XXXVII
greenberetTFS is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-07-2012, 07:06   #9
MR2
Quiet Professional
 
MR2's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2011
Location: Location, Location
Posts: 4,073
Quote:
Originally Posted by greenberetTFS View Post
Try this.......I'm thinking of suing PS.com for hurting my feelings by telling me to SEARCH first before I do any posting's.......
I do believe there is sufficient numbers for that to qualify as a class action suit...
__________________
The two most powerful warriors are patience and time - Leo Tolstoy

It's Never Crowded Along the Extra Mile - Wayne Dyer


WOKE = Willfully Overlooking Known Evil
MR2 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-07-2012, 10:33   #10
Utah Bob
Quiet Professional
 
Utah Bob's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: 11 miles from Dove Creek, Colorady
Posts: 3,924
Quote:
Originally Posted by The Reaper View Post
And I am glad.

TR
And he always will in my book!
__________________
"...But if it be a sin to covet honour,
I am the most offending soul alive."
Shakespeare - Henry V
Lazy Bob Ranch
Utah Bob is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-07-2012, 11:29   #11
Badger52
Area Commander
 
Badger52's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: Western WI
Posts: 6,977
Quote:
Originally Posted by MR2 View Post
I do believe there is sufficient numbers for that to qualify as a class action suit...
I believe one would first have to be a QP to have standing with the Court.

Last edited by Badger52; 02-07-2012 at 11:30. Reason: edit perspective
Badger52 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-16-2012, 05:21   #12
Pete
Quiet Professional
 
Pete's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: Fayetteville
Posts: 13,080
Record-seeking skydiver makes 13-mile test jump

Record-seeking skydiver makes 13-mile test jump

http://news.yahoo.com/record-seeking...233204849.html

"Skydiving daredevil Felix Baumgartner is more than halfway toward his goal of setting a world record for the highest jump.

Baumgartner lifted off Thursday for a test jump from Roswell, N.M., aboard a 100-foot helium balloon. He rode inside a pressurized capsule to 71,581 feet — 13.6 miles — and then jumped. He parachuted to a safe landing, according to project spokeswoman Trish Medalen................."

Even the test jump was pretty high up there.
Pete is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-16-2012, 08:22   #13
Guymullins
Guerrilla Chief
 
Guymullins's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2011
Location: South Africa
Posts: 911
Quote:
Originally Posted by Pete View Post
Record-seeking skydiver makes 13-mile test jump

http://news.yahoo.com/record-seeking...233204849.html

"Skydiving daredevil Felix Baumgartner is more than halfway toward his goal of setting a world record for the highest jump.

Baumgartner lifted off Thursday for a test jump from Roswell, N.M., aboard a 100-foot helium balloon. He rode inside a pressurized capsule to 71,581 feet — 13.6 miles — and then jumped. He parachuted to a safe landing, according to project spokeswoman Trish Medalen................."

Even the test jump was pretty high up there.
I think the test jump broke the worlds freefall record. When I was planning an attempt on it with one of your countrymen some years ago it stood at 45 000 ft ASL. I had not heard that it had been broken in the interim.
Guymullins is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-25-2012, 08:35   #14
Penn
Area Commander
 
Penn's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2007
Posts: 3,467
Update

Great Photographs

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/pict...?frame=2169351
Penn is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-25-2012, 08:58   #15
Mike792
Quiet Professional
 
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: Down South
Posts: 223
Quote:
Originally Posted by greenberetTFS View Post
Try this.......I'm thinking of suing PS.com for hurting my feelings by telling me to SEARCH first before I do any posting's.......

Big Teddy
Please feel free to submit the attach form to your local JAG office to continue with the law suit. LOL.
Attached Files
File Type: pdf DA_FORM_IMT_WF1.pdf (109.6 KB, 52 views)
__________________
Take Care

Mike
Mike792 is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply


Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is Off
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump



All times are GMT -6. The time now is 15:29.



Copyright 2004-2022 by Professional Soldiers ®
Site Designed, Maintained, & Hosted by Hilliker Technologies