09-09-2010, 11:39
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Making Soldiers Fit to Fight, Without the Situps
Article in the NY Times>
http://www.nytimes.com/2010/08/31/us...d=1&ref=health
Wondering if this is effecting the process at SFRE thru the Q-Course at all?
Any changes or insights would be greatly helpful. I am training up based on current AFPT model.
Thanks..
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09-09-2010, 14:38
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As he and Mr. Van Camp started developing what became a 434-page manual, they began by considering what combat soldiers do and came up with a checklist of things like throwing grenades and dodging gunfire.
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Wow. They can teach you how to dodge gunfire?
Boy howdy. That's some kinda slick PT right there. 
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09-09-2010, 15:24
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As he and Mr. Van Camp started developing what became a 434-page manual, they began by considering what combat soldiers do and came up with a checklist of things like throwing grenades and dodging gunfire.
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Wow. They can teach you how to dodge gunfire?
Boy howdy. That's some kinda slick PT right there.
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I don't know about his PT or "gunfire dodging" credentials, but I sure love his baked beans! 
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09-09-2010, 17:22
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Wow. They can teach you how to dodge gunfire?
Boy howdy. That's some kinda slick PT right there
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Am I a cynic or have they just reinstituted the run, dodge, and jump...or was that the trip, stumble and fall...? 
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09-10-2010, 06:53
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I miss the "body twist." I looked forward to leading PT just to invoke that... Sadly when I got to BNCOC, I was told that old favorite had become verbotten. Next thing you'll tell me that we can't do "hello dollys" anymore.  
<edit> I just did ten @ 4-count... On one hand, I'm thankful that wasn't too embarrassing. On the other hand, I'm saddened that our current crop of Warriors get to miss out on the joy. Also recalled why we PTed before breakfast <edit>
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09-10-2010, 07:59
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I miss the "body twist." I looked forward to leading PT just to invoke that... Sadly when I got to BNCOC, I was told that old favorite had become verbotten. Next thing you'll tell me that we can't do "hello dollys" anymore.
<edit> I just did ten @ 4-count... On one hand, I'm thankful that wasn't too embarrassing. On the other hand, I'm saddened that our current crop of Warriors get to miss out on the joy. Also recalled why we PTed before breakfast <edit> |
Who the HECK wants to do PT AFTER breakfast?! Ugh....
***Exit, stage left to drop a deuce in the woodline!
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09-12-2010, 06:21
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Or then you land up having to eat 2 breakfasts' to replace the one you left on the side of the road, to keep you from falling asleep in class, or else you'd be out doing more pt...
*gag*..
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09-13-2010, 03:22
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Wow. They can teach you how to dodge gunfire?
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...and here you go, "oh ye of little faith". 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vh4Kx9IqIZw
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09-13-2010, 09:34
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Well, I'll be darned! I woulda thought that was impossible!
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09-13-2010, 13:57
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Well, I'll be darned! I woulda thought that was impossible! |
Big deal. I catch em in my teeth.
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09-14-2010, 10:39
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Big deal. I catch em in my teeth. |
Isn't that a requirement for you guys to graduate the Q course? I mean, you ARE all Supermen and hence bullet catching in the teeth is a no brainer. 
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09-14-2010, 16:46
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"Who the HECK wants to do PT AFTER breakfast?! Ugh....
***Exit, stage left to drop a deuce in the woodline!"
Now you know why so many guys came back with only one sock after the run...
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09-15-2010, 09:17
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The Remo Williams clip is amazing. I can't wait to show my friends the skills I am to acquire...I've heard rumors in Eric Haney's book Inside Delta Force. I had no clue it was this level.
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09-15-2010, 10:13
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The Remo Williams clip is amazing. I can't wait to show my friends the skills I am to acquire...I've heard rumors in Eric Haney's book Inside Delta Force. I had no clue it was this level. |
Wait until you get to stare at goats!
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09-16-2010, 02:00
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"Who the HECK wants to do PT AFTER breakfast?! Ugh....
***Exit, stage left to drop a deuce in the woodline!"
Now you know why so many guys came back with only one sock after the run...
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I'm guilty of that AT LEAST 1x, that I am willing to admit.
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