09-06-2010, 06:39
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‘Machete’ producers lied about racist bloodbath
Not everyone loves the new movie.
This one is turning out to be "better" than the Blaxploitation movies of the 70t's. I could never understand how movies like these every made it to the theaters. When I watched Shaft in 1971, with Richard Roundtree,, I though it was Good,, but a little OFF.. What followed was trash. It will be interesting to see what MSM and POTUS does with this.
We do not need to bring back WATT like riots. Didn't do any good the 1st time, will not do any good now..
With the REAL problems Mexico has with the drug cartel's, MSM and the left are asking for trouble...
But, then that's what they want..
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‘Machete’ producers lied about racist bloodbath
Machete ‘race war’ confirmed as tax rebates still in question for anti-Texas, pro-immigration film
Aaron Dykes & Alex Jones
Prison Planet.com
Sunday, September 5, 2010
l‘Machete’ reached the #3 spot at the box office opening weekend. But after viewing the film, it is clear that its producers lied about the extent of the film’s racial message, which includes vulgar atrocities, including the killing of a pregnant woman attempting to cross the border during one of the opening scenes. This deception about the film’s message could bring its tax incentives, worth millions in production costs, into question.
When Alex Jones expressed concern in May that a leaked script portrayed white characters as vehemently racist and wantonly murderous, or that a Latino mob is roused to take on border vigilantes in racial conflict, director Rodriguez assured Ain’t It Cool News, that he’d ‘had too much tequila,’ and that those types of scenes wouldn’t make it to the final edited version. Producer Elizabeth Avellan went on the attack just before the release, defending the tax incentives ‘Machete’ had practically already been assured. Avellan denounced the ‘uproar over the film’ as “unfounded and unnecessary,” stating there was ‘no reason for a denial of incentives’:
“A lot of people made up a lot of stuff in terms of what the movie is about and who the bad guy is,” she said. “There were a lot of things that people misconstrued … without even knowing the script and pretending they have a script.”
Now there is no doubt. Everything Jones quoted from the script was on screen in one form or another– and its tone was clear: opposition to illegal immigration is tantamount to murder, white racism and vile Machiavellian scheming. One scene that was excised from the script repeated the one-sided demonization of the Freedom Force vigilantes, who were to murder a young child on the border at the end. However, that ending was left behind for a different sequence altogether.
Reviewers like ‘Big Hollywood’ panned the film as ‘Dull, Convoluted, Racist and Anti-American,’ criticizing that: “’Machete’ offers no middle ground, no reasonable, non-racist position against wide open borders for those fleeing from what one character describes as the “personal hell” that is Mexico.”
Who the illegals fight against on screen is one thing. What their words mean is altogether something else. That’s the shell game Rodriguez plays and his racially divisive messaging goes way beyond the normal cinematic political posturing and button-pushing. And you will never see a more stereotypically racist portrayal of Southerners, who, in an obvious reference to the border Minute Men, are not only played for cheap laughs but portrayed as sub-human animals who hunt and murder illegals – kill a helpless pregnant woman and say “Welcome to America.”
Rodriguez & crew played everyone as fools, knowing full well what the film would contain. Does Texas want to subsidize the films of Robert Rodriguez and continue to give him a platform to spew divisive racially-tinted trash oriented at Hispanics and attempting to radicalize their views? Rodriguez is the face of the Texas Film Commission’s tax incentives program, and has been virtually guaranteed up to $60 million in rebate funding for a package of films.
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09-06-2010, 10:55
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Having sat through a class on education in a culturally diverse society, I believe I can state with confidence that many Hispanics have deep feelings of anger and grievance. Such films as this are, in my opinion, likely to make that worse. Even the brief trailers I've viewed seem like the sort of thing crafted to provoke ethnic conflict.
Not good, considering the demographics of my AO.
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09-06-2010, 11:20
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I think it would be reasonable to assume that if Anglo's made a movie depicting patriots defending their borders, their country and way of life from Government complacency and foreign invaders from the South it would be deemed xenophobic and hate speech.
And those that participated with the production would be tagged as Tea baggers, racists, Nazi's and child molesters.
That said, Anglo's are relegated to the subject matter of fictitious Zombies.
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09-06-2010, 11:45
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The only reason this movie is legal is because Whites are the target. Were it any other group, the establishment would be working to apply the entire force of law (mostly federal interestingly enough) against everyone who had a part in bringing it to "the big screen". See previous thread about UN human rights report.
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09-06-2010, 15:02
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Originally Posted by nmap
Not good, considering the demographics of my AO.
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Nmap, worry not. If it gets too dangerous in SA, we have a safe house waiting for you in the bungalow behind the pool at "Casa Manana" or make your way to the back of the kitchen at Casa Rio after 9 p.m. and tell them "Chi-Chi" sent you.
Rodriguez is simply ( choose one );
1. Exercising his free speech rights
2. Exercising his poetic license
3. Exercising his Asshattery
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09-06-2010, 18:13
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Nmap, worry not. If it gets too dangerous in SA, we have a safe house waiting for you in the bungalow behind the pool at "Casa Manana" or make your way to the back of the kitchen at Casa Rio after 9 p.m. and tell them "Chi-Chi" sent you. 
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The Casa Rio? One of my favorite places...it has been too long. They make an enchilada plate that is excellent, IMO. Now, that's a great safe house!
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09-06-2010, 18:55
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It's a Tarantino-Rodriguez style gore-fest movie, not a documentary - what does one expect.
Personally, I prefer the Paul Kersey, Harry Callahan, and Casey Ryback themed comedies.
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09-06-2010, 19:35
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What followed was trash.
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Sir--
I most respectfully disagree. Across 110th Street (1973), Truck Turner (1974), Uptown Saturday Night (1974), and Let's Do It Again (1975), held their own against non-blaxploitation films of that decade and remain entertaining.
Also, while The Wiz (1978) was about as dreadful a movie as one could see that decade (and that's saying something if you suffered through Game of Death or TGIF), it will be remembered as a film of great historical significance. It was during the production of that piece of garbage that Quincy Jones and Michael Jackson began their creative partnership that would revitalize the music industry and change American popular culture.
My two cents.
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09-06-2010, 19:41
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Sheesh. IIRC, I'm old enough to remember when the Casa Rio and the paddleboats were about the only things on the river.
Been too long.
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09-06-2010, 19:58
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It's a Tarantino-Rodriguez style gore-fest movie, not a documentary - what does one expect.
Personally, I prefer the Paul Kersey, Harry Callahan, and Casey Ryback themed comedies.
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But Paul, Harry and Casey were taking on criminals, not capping illegals over a lack of documentation.
Just imagine the uproar now if Harry said, You got your Green Card punk? Go ahead punk make my day! And then Harry proceeds to blast the Illegal with 6 44mag. hollow points at point blank range.
Or how how about Halloween 57 where Jason takes on the Mexican border jumpers with his trusty chainsaw.
Both would be a no-go. Tarantino couldn't even get a pass on that....La Raza would be up his ass at the first hint of such a production.
But if Agent Callahan doing the bidding of the DOJ shot Sheriff Joe, or Jason went to Maricopa County to wield his chainsaw on the Sheriffs Department it would be A-Okay. It would be a regular Hee-Haw session! Chris Matthews would probably extol that it they were the funniest movies he ever saw.
Machete is like Mississippi Burning, only the roles and glorification are in reverse.
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09-06-2010, 20:41
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I think you might rewatch the early Dirty Harry films. Clint Eastwood's Inspector Callahan epitomized the 'anti-hero' of 1970s cinema. Callahan crosses many a boundary in the first three films.
Also, I don't know if making political arguments in the future subjunctive tense is the way to go as we approach the midterm elections. We on the RIGHT side of the issues have plenty to discuss with our friends across the aisle about the here and the now without talking about what group Y would do if group M did that.
IIRC/FWIW, La Raza did not protest the depiction of Latinos in American Me, Blood In / Blood Out, or Training Day. Although La Eme did have creative differences with Edward James Olmos over American Me. (In a compromise solution, he moved to NYC for a while.)
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09-06-2010, 21:09
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After working in Mexico, it comes as no surprise that the Gabacho is the enemy. Working in Mexico showed me that the major goal of everyone was to not be blamed or held responsible for anything. No one was ever responsible for an accident, a malfunction, something being late or anything bad that happened. "No se. No tengo la culpa"(It isn't my fault) should be the national motto. It seems everyone is a martyr.
Mexico has been in existence for 200 years longer than the U.S. and his 100 years behind economically and 50 years behind culturally. Looking North every day reminds each Mexican that they are living in a country with an insanely corrupt and dysfunctional government. Admitting this, would be to accept responsibility for permitting the system to continue because they have neither the will nor the courage to change things. So, blame the gabacho. Listen to the Pope and breed without any thought of the consequences. Viva Aztlan!! Viva La Raza!!
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09-06-2010, 21:33
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I think you might rewatch the early Dirty Harry films. Clint Eastwood's Inspector Callahan epitomized the 'anti-hero' of 1970s cinema. Callahan crosses many a boundary in the first three films.
Also, I don't know if making political arguments in the future subjunctive tense is the way to go as we approach the midterm elections. We on the RIGHT side of the issues have plenty to discuss with our friends across the aisle about the here and the now without talking about what group Y would do if group M did that.
IIRC/FWIW, La Raza did not protest the depiction of Latinos in American Me, Blood In / Blood Out, or Training Day. Although La Eme did have creative differences with Edward James Olmos over American Me. (In a compromise solution, he moved to NYC for a while.)
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Dirty Harry is playing each evening this week on AMC, all five movies.
As for Machete, Quinton Taratino likes the copy the 70's exploitation genre. I enjoyed Planet of Terror/ Death Proof. Machete was the trailer for the double-feature. Who would have thought a movie would surface? Wait, he did.
As for double standards for racism, sex, religion, etc., they exist.
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09-06-2010, 21:39
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I think you might rewatch the early Dirty Harry films. Clint Eastwood's Inspector Callahan epitomized the 'anti-hero' of 1970s cinema. Callahan crosses many a boundary in the first three films.
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Boundaries? Nah, he just did away with the red tape, saved court cost, public defenders time and prevented repeat offenders who knew their Miranda Rights by heart from returning to the streets of California. Harry had a cost effective solution to the problem of the State. Since his characters retirement crime has increased in the Golden State and the State is bankrupt.
If someone had the balls to make a movie glorifying violence in Technocolor and Dolby 3D mini-gun wielding citizen protectors of the border and the demise of Mexicans trying to cross the border....SwHTF.
Reverse the roles and they are merely misunderstood and oppressed individuals.
There is a double standard.
If Americans do the killing it will be viewed in the same light as Columbine, if the Mexicans do it they did it as the result of oppression.
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09-07-2010, 06:11
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It's a Tarantino-Rodriguez style gore-fest movie, not a documentary - what does one expect.
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I agree with Richard on this one 100%...................
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