09-02-2010, 17:02
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The Reason I Like Glenn Beck
Glenn Beck exposes treason, sedition and subversion for what they are....
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Meet Dolores Huerta
This is a rush transcript from "Glenn Beck," September 1, 2010. This copy may not be in its final form and may be updated.
GLENN BECK, HOST: Show me your friends and I will show you your future. That is a phrase that scares the heck out of me when I think about our president. Because as we have demonstrated on this program and everyone else seems to dismiss, all the people around our president come from the same creepy circle of radical '60 types.
The latest, which is now the lead story on the new Web site that I have started, it's a news and information Web site: TheBlaze.com. I'll tell you more about this later. But basically, I hired some journalists because there are stories I don't have enough broadcast hours in a day to cover and somebody has got to cover them.
Please, check out TheBlaze.com and make it one of your favorites for a couple of weeks. If it's not doing the job, let us know. If we don't get it right, move on with your life — TheBlaze.com.
Anyway, the lead story was Dolores Huerta. Now, she works for the Hilda Solis and the Department of Labor's We Can Help program. What's that? Well, thankfully, the Department of Labor has put together a handy jingle just so you know.
Here it is:
(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)
NARRATOR: We can help! We'll get what you you're due!
HILDA SOLIS, U.S. SECRETARY OF LABOR: You work hard and you have the right to be paid fairly. I'm U.S. Secretary of Labor Hilda Solis and it is a serious problem when workers in this country are not being paid every cent they earn.
(END VIDEO CLIP)
BECK: Legally or illegally.
It's a good thing that catchy tune was there. I'm glad my hard-earned tax dollars and yours went to that.
Anyway, Dolores Huerta, she is working on this great program. She's all over the Web site. She's a big civil rights activist. She's got a great resume. She was the honorary chair of the Democratic Socialists of America, which I know I want somebody who is honorary chair of the Democratic Socialists of America working in the Labor Department — who believes this. Ready? "The alternative to capitalism is democratic socialism." Yes.
She also writes for The Huffington Post. She is a labor leader — legendary. She worked with Cesar Chavez who — she also had the FBI investigate for being a communist. It's good stuff. Cesar Chavez was investigated by the — and she's right — she's right there, it's great.
So, to have her there at the labor — the Department of Labor helping them on things is really good. But it actually might be better than what she was doing before. What was she doing before? The lady who said the alternative to capitalism is democratic socialism? Yes. Indoctrinating our children.
Here is the story from The Blaze: Here she is talking to high school students. Watch:
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,600643,00.html
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09-02-2010, 21:54
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America is funding it's own demise
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09-03-2010, 01:05
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Oh, how I TRY to like Glen Beck!
Every time I start... he goes all 'God' on me.
I realize it is a personal failing, but his ranting of late bring to mind 'Jim and Tammy Faye' and Oral. (And NOT the 'good' oral...)
He is long on what is wrong, and short about just the hell how we are going to solve this shit.
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09-03-2010, 03:23
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He is long on what is wrong, and short about just the hell how we are going to solve this shit.
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I thought this was pretty interesting
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Beck is attacking the enemy at the foundations of their power, their claim to race as a permanent trump card, their claim to the Civil Rights movement as a permanent model to constantly be transforming a perpetually unjust society.
He is nuking out the foundations of the opposition’s moral preeminence...
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http://chicagoboyz.net/archives/15295.html
This book is way better than Alinsky's...
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/041...SIN=0415371031
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09-03-2010, 04:41
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Actually, she's a bit of an interesting person.
http://dhuerta.hostcentric.com/dh_bio.htm
As for the 'We Can Help' program:
It appears to me that the DOL's program is designed to keep employers from (1) seeking undocumented illegal labor and (2) taking advantage of their employees by educating the entire workforce on the federally mandated laws.
However - legal or illegal - I agree with her position that if someone hires you, you should be paid for your labor and the laws in America state that such labor is worth x$ per hour.
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HILDA SOLIS, U.S. SECRETARY OF LABOR: You work hard and you have the right to be paid fairly. I'm U.S. Secretary of Labor Hilda Solis and it is a serious problem when workers in this country are not being paid every cent they earn.
(END VIDEO CLIP)
BECK: Legally or illegally.
It's a good thing that catchy tune was there. I'm glad my hard-earned tax dollars and yours went to that.
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In response to questions regarding the U.S. Department of Labor's Wage and Hour Division's "We Can Help" campaign — an effort to educate workers across the United States of their rights under the law — the department today issued the following statement:
"Through Democratic and Republican administrations, the Department of Labor consistently has held that the country's minimum wage and overtime law protects workers regardless of their immigration status. To argue otherwise diminishes the value of work in this country.
"This position provides two very important protections. First, it ensures that U.S. workers have a level playing field when seeking employment. Consider the lost advantage to U.S. workers when unscrupulous employers purposely pass them over to hire workers who are afraid to file a complaint about not being paid the minimum wage or often not being paid at all.
"Second, no employer should gain an economic edge by hiring undocumented individuals who feel that they must accept working conditions below those required by law. Good employers, who abide by the law, should not suffer the consequences of those businesses engaged in a race to the bottom."
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http://www.dol.gov/wecanhelp/
I doubt whether I'd agree with a number of Ms Huerta's political views, but do understand her thinking and methodology.
And the DSA is certainly not 'my cup of tea' - http://www.absoluteastronomy.com/top...sts_of_America
As for Glen Beck, Rush Limbaugh, etc - neither are they - and IMO...see attached pic.
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09-03-2010, 05:40
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09-03-2010, 06:52
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Illegals
Richard is right. It is a not unheard of practice here in the Houston area to hire a group of illegals. Tell them payday is every other Friday. On payday, make sure Immigation shows up to arrest them so you don't have to pay them. Or pay them half of what was promised and tell them if they bitch, they are going to report them. These employers are much worse than the illegals themselves. They don't WANT to hire US citizens because they would have to pay more. What really pisses me off about hypocritical, weak chinned little assholes like Glen Beck is how quiet they were for so many years. The agricultural/horticultural industry is very reliant on imported labor. We have a program to hire them called the H1 program I believe. It is not cheap. You have to provide adequate housing, minimum wage and certain other requirements. I have customers who even take spare land and turn it into soccer fields for them. Estimates are $13-$15 dollars per hour when everything is figured in. The workers are required to return home for 2 months per year. My customers who use the program have no complaints about the cost. It finds them workers they would not otherwise have. Oh yes, if a citizen shows up and applies for a job when you have this program you MUST hire them. The only problem is it is very paper work intensive--a real pain in the ass. Many employees hire an outside firm to handle that end of it. Often the employers find people they want to keep year round, which requires a green card. In February of 2002 I wondered what it would take to get one resident staus. I opened up the phone book and picked out one of the law firms specializing in immigration law--one with a full page ad. I was told there was no way to get a green card since 9/11 but not to worry. The administration had made it clear they were not going to enforce the immigration laws along the Mexican border. Why? Well, leading contributors to the Republicans had a financial interest in having plenty of cheap labor. "Bob the Builder" Perry might not actually hire them direct (maybe he does too) but he benefits when his sub contractors do. And he approves and encourages it. Same with Walmart, Tyson Chicken, and the list goes on. The special interests who funded Bush, Delay et al wanted unfettered illegal immigration and they got it. They have been masterful at blaming it all on the liberals, but its bullshit. And all the years this was going on Glen Beck and all those like him were pretty much silent. Now we are going to blame the liberals. Want to know why I hate Republicans? because of shiit like this. I voted for them and they lied to me.
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09-03-2010, 09:05
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I love Glenn!
I love when he teaches and I love when he "goes all God on me!".
I keep him in my prayers and love his humbleness and love his passion!!
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09-03-2010, 09:32
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............ Want to know why I hate Republicans? because of shiit like this. I voted for them and they lied to me.
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Hate is a mighty strong word to throw at all Republicans.
If you go way back on this site and others you'll see plenty of places where Bush, McLame and Shamnesty Graham were called out on their positions, along with Snow, Collins and a number of others.
McLame went all conservative to win his primary but look for him to bolt back to "Mr Lets Compromise"
Conservatives and Tea Party folks are working hard to clean house prior to the November elections but it takes hard work and holding the newcomers feet to the fire.
Are you working or just complaining?
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09-03-2010, 10:35
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Richard is right. It is a not unheard of practice here in the Houston area to hire a group of illegals. Tell them payday is every other Friday. On payday, make sure Immigation shows up to arrest them so you don't have to pay them. Or pay them half of what was promised and tell them if they bitch, they are going to report them. These employers are much worse than the illegals themselves. They don't WANT to hire US citizens because they would have to pay more. What really pisses me off about hypocritical, weak chinned little assholes like Glen Beck is how quiet they were for so many years. The agricultural/horticultural industry is very reliant on imported labor. We have a program to hire them called the H1 program I believe. It is not cheap. You have to provide adequate housing, minimum wage and certain other requirements. I have customers who even take spare land and turn it into soccer fields for them. Estimates are $13-$15 dollars per hour when everything is figured in. The workers are required to return home for 2 months per year. My customers who use the program have no complaints about the cost. It finds them workers they would not otherwise have. Oh yes, if a citizen shows up and applies for a job when you have this program you MUST hire them. The only problem is it is very paper work intensive--a real pain in the ass. Many employees hire an outside firm to handle that end of it. Often the employers find people they want to keep year round, which requires a green card. In February of 2002 I wondered what it would take to get one resident staus. I opened up the phone book and picked out one of the law firms specializing in immigration law--one with a full page ad. I was told there was no way to get a green card since 9/11 but not to worry. The administration had made it clear they were not going to enforce the immigration laws along the Mexican border. Why? Well, leading contributors to the Republicans had a financial interest in having plenty of cheap labor. "Bob the Builder" Perry might not actually hire them direct (maybe he does too) but he benefits when his sub contractors do. And he approves and encourages it. Same with Walmart, Tyson Chicken, and the list goes on. The special interests who funded Bush, Delay et al wanted unfettered illegal immigration and they got it. They have been masterful at blaming it all on the liberals, but its bullshit. And all the years this was going on Glen Beck and all those like him were pretty much silent. Now we are going to blame the liberals. Want to know why I hate Republicans? because of shiit like this. I voted for them and they lied to me.
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Rather than contain serious bandwidth going off on a diatribe regarding what I consider a very weak approach to your point...
I will say simply bring a couple of points to bear:
-IF the ILLEGALS were NOT HERE, then they wouldn't have to WORRY ABOUT WHAT THEY GOT PAID
-IF the ILLEGALS got their GREEN CARD, the they wouldn't have to WORRY ABOUT WHAT THEY GOT PAID
-IF the ILLEGALS became CITIZENS (oddly like the majority of immigrants who want to live here, work here, and contribute here do), they wouldn't have to WORRY ABOUT WHAT THEY GOT PAID
To say that the Republican / Conservative platform is the one who refuses to support border security is simply LUDICROUS when you consider the voting base for the Democratic / Liberal agenda is mainly minority voters. 15 Million ILLEGALS get amnesty, you think they are going to vote REPUBLICAN? Believe me...I live in El Paso, I have MORE than my share of contact with the ILLEGAL immigrant population. However, I also have CONSIDERABLE contact with the LEGAL IMMIGRANT population. And you know what? They HATE ILLEGALS. Why? Because the LEGAL IMMIGRANTS went through the trouble to do what they were SUPPOSED to do, and what is one of the MAIN reasons they can't get adequate work? BECAUSE OF THE ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS.
And let's not start throwing the "lies" word around quite so flippantly. We can go back just a couple of years and listen to / read about / and here proclamations from the current resident of Pennsylvania Avenue in order to see how lying to the entire Nation for PERSONAL gain can be masterfully accomplished.
I do not blame ALL Democrats / Liberals for that stance, nor do I feel they are all partial to utilization of that same tactic. Look at the flood of Dem's who are seeing it for themselves and abandoning him because of it. I do not agree with 90% of Dem / Lib views, but at least many of the persons spouting them are up front about their points.
Sometimes I like Glenn, sometimes I don't. I hate when he starts pissing out of his eyes. He has been through a lot in his life and he has overcome a tremendous amount. I agree that he CALLS things for WHAT THEY ARE. Like him or not - he puts factual viewpoints forward.
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09-03-2010, 11:02
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You know Richard I am sometimes amazed at your posts, you describe Dolores Huerta as an interesting person, so was Stalin, Kim Jong-il and Hitler.
Tell me how many people does one have to torture, imprison for their political views, and murder before everyone realizes socialism and communism is a really bad idea? Did you know Stalin was also a Socialist Democrat that worked for the labor party? Funny how we forget world history, until it's too late and we are dammed to repeat it.
"Should not matter if they are Legal or illegal", that's a nice stance to take. So in essence you think that drug dealers, gang members etc, legal or illegal are due their just payments? Support crime in America, hire an illegal. Sounds good to me.
I think we should start an "Illegal's Labor" union just to make sure the criminals here in America "illegally" get what they deserve and more, oh, shit, wait Dolores Huerta was hired to do just that.
Stalin would be so proud.
There's a reason I've kept the quote in my signature line for years:
The American people will never knowingly adopt socialism, but under the name of liberalism they will adopt every fragment of the socialist program until one day America will be a socialist nation without ever knowing how it happened." Norman Thomas, 1936 presidential candidate on the Socialist ticket
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09-03-2010, 12:42
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-IF the ILLEGALS got their GREEN CARD, the they wouldn't have to WORRY ABOUT WHAT THEY GOT PAID
-IF the ILLEGALS became CITIZENS (oddly like the majority of immigrants who want to live here, work here, and contribute here do), they wouldn't have to WORRY ABOUT WHAT THEY GOT PAID
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Eagle5US--
With respect, these two statements suggest that resident aliens and citizens do not regularly have issues over pay with management. IMO/IME, such has not been the case historically nor is it now. (I spent some time, ah, 'discussing energetically' this issue with a Teamster yesterday.)
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After reading about this bottom-feeder I don't believe shes a socialist, but a hard-core communist.
We have become a nation of idiots.
Obama Admin Campaigns for Illegal Aliens to Reap Benefits of U.S. law.
Written By: Glen Seibert
U.S. Department of Labor rolls out “We Can Help” campaign.
Glen O. Seibert – Staff Writer, New Patriot Journal
Illegal aliens, working without documentation in the United States, deserve equal pay for their criminal activity, according to the U. S. Department of Labor. And the
department has launched a public service ad campaign, deliberately rolled out first in Texas, to send the message “to the neighborhood, to the barrio, to the community.”
Speaking to the National Council of LaRaza, a Hispanic advocacy organization, U. S. Secretary of Labor Hilda L. Solis announced the We Can Help program. In public service
announcements posted on U.S. Department of Labor website, Solis states “Every worker in America has a right to be paid fairly, whether documented or not.”
The website also carries PSAs featuring Dolores Huerta, co-founder and First Vice President Emeritus of the United Farm Workers of America, AFL-CIO (UFW).
The thirty- and sixty-second messages, featuring an upbeat Latin music track and presented in Spanish and English, are targeted specifically at farm workers. She recites a
list of facilities and services that must be provided at no cost and reiterates the fact that even undocumented illegals can expect and should demand to receive them. She then
invites the viewer to make a free call to the Wage and Hour Division of the DOL if they have problems.
Huerta, a member of the Democratic Socialists of America, is a proponent of the Partido Comunista de Venezuela, or PCV, the Venezuelan Communist Party and a staunch supporter of United Socialist Party of Venezuela president Hugo Chavez.
The PSAs can be viewed at the United States Department of Labor website:
www.dol.gov/wecanhelp/
Videos of Dolores Huerta speaking in support of the Chavez regime in Venezuela to a group of Tucson, Arizona, high school students in 2006 can be viewed at:
www.theblaze.com
http://www.newpatriotjournal.com/Art...fits_of_US_law
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09-03-2010, 13:24
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Eagle5US--
With respect, these two statements suggest that resident aliens and citizens do not regularly have issues over pay with management. IMO/IME, such has not been the case historically nor is it now. (I spent some time, ah, 'discussing energetically' this issue with a Teamster yesterday.)
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Perhaps you take my statements too literally....
I understand your point.
No system is perfect, but if they are resident aliens or citizens they have a legitimate gripe about their due compensation, they have a better shot at utilizing the resources at their disposal to address the situation ( and rightfully so).
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09-03-2010, 13:38
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Sometimes people expect too much of rabble-rousers. After all, by their own admission, they are entertainers.
If one chooses to listen to them, extract what may be useful and discard the rest without drama.
As far as Huerta is concerned, I do see her point. Perhaps it's sticking out of the top of her head.
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