07-24-2010, 06:38
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CF-18 Crash 7-23-2010
A plug for 0-0 ejection systems - wonder who was signed for the a/c...
http://photoblog.msnbc.msn.com/_news...terjet-crashes
And so it goes...
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07-24-2010, 10:01
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How much is that in American money?
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07-24-2010, 10:15
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With two engines, he should have been fine, but the video below shows why he lost it: (fly-by starts a :10)
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Bews was practicing Friday in a CF-18 Hornet jet over Lethbridge County Airport for an international air show. The CF-18 he was flying is a model specifically used for air shows.
"All of a sudden you could hear `pop, pop, pop,' " witness Roland Booth told CTV News. "I saw sparks come out of the one engine. The plane started banking over to the side. That's when the pilot bailed out with his parachute."
Another witness, aviation buff Darren Jansens, says the pilot was just starting a maneuver known as a High Alpha pass before the accident.
"It's a high-angle pass, very low speed, fairly close to the ground. It's the lowest-speed maneuver the Hornet generally performs," said Jansens.
"The pilot did eject safely but was dragged several hundred feet unconscious along the ground," he added.
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The windsock shows quite a breeze, also.
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07-24-2010, 13:02
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He was on the knife's edge there. That escape system is pretty impressive. That canopy looks like my old navy triconical reserve. They're small, but they work.
Glad he made it. Looks like the Canadians are out about $45,000,000 (American).
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07-24-2010, 17:02
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Closer video: CF-18 Crash
I don't hear the popping (compressor stall) that was reported. Looks more like he stalled it with help from the right engine. In the first pic in Richards post, the right nozzle is choked but the left is open for the afterburner. A little bit of asymmetrical thrust at low speed and a high angle-of-attack would do the trick.
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07-24-2010, 19:09
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There is a bit of irony in the back round music that is playing. Glad to see that he got out in time.
I just saw the air show in Duluth last weekend and am thankful that a scene like this one did not take place there.
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07-24-2010, 19:18
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I noticed that his ailerons were moving quite a bit, his stabilators were pretty much maxed out, and the leading edge slats were down. It appears the right wing stalled first causing the aircraft to roll plus the right engine appeared to be either idling or out with the left at a high power setting causing the hard yaw to the right. With the aircraft configured for slow flight, high angle of attack, low altitude, and then one engine out the outcome was pretty certain.
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07-24-2010, 19:37
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Green Light
I noticed that his ailerons were moving quite a bit, his stabilators were pretty much maxed out, and the leading edge slats were down. It appears the right wing stalled first causing the aircraft to roll plus the right engine appeared to be either idling or out with the left at a high power setting causing the hard yaw to the right. With the aircraft configured for slow flight, high angle of attack, low altitude, and then one engine out the outcome was pretty certain.
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Concur. This was an exhibition so the pilot should not be faulted since he was demonstrating the lower corner of the envelope. It was, probably, mechanical failure, but not a catastrophic one. (Except for the loss of the aircraft.) He also has one punch-out under his belt.  If he has four more, does he get jump wings?
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Reason: added "probably". I'm not the investigator.
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07-24-2010, 20:02
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Since no one was seriously hurt (I read that the pilot is out of the hospital), this is how it's done: Blue Angels
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07-24-2010, 21:12
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I am a civilian pilot/instructor, so take my following comments at whatever value you wish........
1. I am glad the Canadian pilot is OK.
2. I think I would have punched out sooner (as a 41 y/o father of 2.)
3. Watching that Blue Angel video, I really wish I had gone for my dreams instead of deciding to be all grown up and responsible when I was young. I had a good time where I ended up going during those younger years, but, Damn!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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07-24-2010, 22:12
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Axe
I am a civilian pilot/instructor, so take my following comments at whatever value you wish........
1. I am glad the Canadian pilot is OK.
2. I think I would have punched out sooner (as a 41 y/o father of 2.)
3. Watching that Blue Angel video, I really wish I had gone for my dreams instead of deciding to be all grown up and responsible when I was young. I had a good time where I ended up going during those younger years, but, Damn!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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RE #2 - Military pilots are a might more stubborn.
Lots more paperwork when you lose an AC. 
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07-24-2010, 22:39
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Originally Posted by PSM
Since no one was seriously hurt (I read that the pilot is out of the hospital)
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Hearsay. I have found no conformation of this. I hope it is true.
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07-25-2010, 08:16
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http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...072500936.html
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He hit the ground hard and was dragged, but the military said Bews was recovering from his ordeal.
Despite reports late Friday claiming Bews had been released from the hospital, military spokeswoman Capt. Holly Brown said Saturday that he remained hospitalized.
"We don't have a time or date," Brown said, noting that she has been in communication with Bews via e-mail. "He's in good spirits. His condition is stable and we're hoping he's going to be released soon."
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I used to hit the ground hard and get dragged nearly every damn time.
Never got to go to the hospital though.
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07-25-2010, 11:19
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Do the Canadians have a Caterpillar Club?
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