06-28-2010, 10:00
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The dentist (Gary Roberts)
Seems the "dentist" is talking smack again.....
And he will not discuss the issue with Trauma Surgeons on this board, he will however post anywhere he can explaining he is the "expert".
Funny how that works, a dentist knowing more about GSW's than a real trauma surgeon.
Even more amusing is when not one "real" trauma surgeon will agree with his findings........
Roberts is the only one I know that drinks his own kool-aid.
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06-28-2010, 17:14
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Background, please!! I have no idea what or who you are referring to, TS, but I WANT to know!!
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06-28-2010, 17:20
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06-28-2010, 17:43
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Originally Posted by PSM
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You should probably do the search for "LeMas" rather than "lamas", lest you find only misspelled animal references.
Or you could search for Gary Roberts, also known as DocGKR here, though he has never posted on this board, preferring to provide his terminal ballistic "expertise" elsewhere, relying on his fanboys to provide cover and moral support.
I guess if you want your trauma advice from a dentist, you should get your dental opinions from a trauma surgeon or a pathologist.
Ask him how many rounds of LeMas he has fired into live targets.
I just wonder if the Navy approves of all of his public commentary and bashing of other people.
TR
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06-28-2010, 17:48
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Originally Posted by The Reaper
You should probably do the search for "LeMas" rather than "lamas", lest you find only misspelled animal references.
Or you could search for Gary Roberts, also known as DocGKR here, though he has never posted on this board, preferring to provide his terminal ballistic "expertise" elsewhere where his fanboys provide cover and moral support.
I guess if you want your trauma advice from a dentist, you should get your dental opinions from a trauma surgeon or a pathologist.
TR
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Just pointing A6 to the thread. At least I didn't spell it "Alpacas".
Pat
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"The limits of tyrants are prescribed by the endurance of those whom they oppress." -- Frederick Douglass
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06-28-2010, 19:51
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Thanks Pat.
Got it TS.
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06-28-2010, 20:28
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Thanks, guys, I did search, but wasn't sure if that was the right thread or not.
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The question is never simply IF someone is lying, it's WHY. - Lie To Me
We must always fear the wicked. But there is another kind of evil that we must fear the most, and that is the indifference of good men - Boondock Saints
Iraq was never lost and Afghanistan was never quite the easy good war. Those in the media too often pile on and follow the polls rather than offer independent analysis. Campaign rhetoric and politics are one thing - the responsibility of governance is quite another.
- Victor Davis Hanson
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06-28-2010, 20:44
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06-28-2010, 21:32
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http://www.m4carbine.net/showthread....917#post693917
This is the thread. It also seems that there are several people there that are a bit bitter b/c they got their pee-pee slapped here.
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06-29-2010, 09:48
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Yes, my fav was the national guard PFC, (friend of the dentist), that told everyone he was in fact a Special Forces soldier, used his "SF credibility" to back up the dentist and was busted here.....
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06-29-2010, 15:21
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Originally Posted by NORMAL550GIRL
That thread was hilarious! Somebody call the WAAAAMBULANCE!
Reminds me a lot of my kids when they were, oh, about 5.
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Indeed,
It seems as if there are those on "other" sites on the Internet, that are jealous! Reminds me of elementary school kids who are playing tether-ball on their playground. You could always spot those little tykes jumping up and down in place, in a temper tantrum, screaming about," I will go next!!!, I will go next!!!" Then seeing those little boys running away crying because no-one would listen to them! 
Holly...
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06-29-2010, 15:50
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"The difference is that back then, we had the intestinal fortitude to do what we needed to in order to preserve our territorial sovereignty and to protect the citizens of this great country, and today, we do not." TR
"I attribute the little I know to my not having been ashamed to ask for information, and to my rule of conversing with all descriptions of men on those topics that form their own peculiar professions and pursuits." John Locke
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06-30-2010, 09:11
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Originally Posted by Team Sergeant
Seems the "dentist" is talking smack again..... 
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Why does it always have to be "the dentist"? There is a female Q course grad.... can I use the term "THE SF Soldier" from now on when referring to her.  haha How about keith Idema ?
For the record... this mouth mechanic supports SYD in his conclusions about lemas...AND I slept in a holiday inn express last night.
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06-30-2010, 12:20
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Originally Posted by Sacamuelas
Why does it always have to be "the dentist"? There is a female Q course grad.... can I use the term "THE SF Soldier" from now on when referring to her.  haha How about keith Idema ?
For the record... this mouth mechanic supports SYD in his conclusions about lemas...AND I slept in a holiday inn express last night. 
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This "dentist" thinks he's a trauma surgeon, not a dentist. The way he passes himself off one would assume he's an M.D.
Gary Roberts, I know you're reading this, why don't you come on over and discuss your gelatin facts with some "trauma surgeons"?
I promise I'll stay out of it, in fact we'll only allow dentists and M.D.s to post.
I'm sure it will be exciting.....
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06-30-2010, 12:50
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No dog in this fight but;
- To my knowledge ballistic gelatin is still the most widely used and recommended testing method by terminal ballistics experts. No, not the same as shooting a human body, but the findings mirror quite closely the real life results and it is a viable testing method.
- Dr. Roberts posts on a number of websites ( LF.net, 10-8 forums, M4carbine, Tacticalforums ), where professional, vetted LE / MIL folks post as well, he enjoys a status on those forums as a very qualified expert in the field of terminal ballistics testing.
- I find it hard to believe that this forum would not benefit from his knowledge and that professional folks could not get along? I also find it hard to believe that the only "true" knowledgeable ballistics experts reside on just this forum, trauma surgeons or not.
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