05-21-2010, 18:52
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Should misrepresenting one's military service disqualify a candidate from elected off
Should misrepresenting one's military service disqualify a candidate from elected office?
Yes, the person who misleads isn't fit for the post
No, not when the person clears up the details
Maybe, if it's relevant to the job
Don't know, it depends on the intent
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Yes, the person who misleads isn't fit for the post92%
No, not when the person clears up the details3%
Maybe, if it's relevant to the job3%
Don't know, it depends on the intent2%
Total Votes: 34,087
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05-21-2010, 18:59
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I would consider it a lack of integrity and that would not be acceptable trait. So my opinion would be that it should disqualify them.
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05-21-2010, 19:50
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Penn
Should misrepresenting one's military service disqualify a candidate from elected office?
Yes, the person who misleads isn't fit for the post
No, not when the person clears up the details
Maybe, if it's relevant to the job
Don't know, it depends on the intent
VoteView Results
Yes, the person who misleads isn't fit for the post92%
No, not when the person clears up the details3%
Maybe, if it's relevant to the job3%
Don't know, it depends on the intent2%
Total Votes: 34,087
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Yes.
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05-21-2010, 20:21
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It's an integrity issue. Calling a politician a liar is belaboring the obvious; therefore, lying must be a qualifying characteristic. Obviously, (No snide comments about the logic chain!), in order to be a politician, one must be a liar. So - lying about one's military service is a (modern) pre-requisite to elected office. 
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05-21-2010, 20:29
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YES.
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05-21-2010, 21:58
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Is misrepresenting the same as misspeaking? Misplacing an occasional word? I get so confused.... 
So what are the Dems going to do now? Dump or Defend?
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05-21-2010, 22:57
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Peregrino
It's an integrity issue. Calling a politician a liar is belaboring the obvious; therefore, lying must be a qualifying characteristic. Obviously, (No snide comments about the logic chain!), in order to be a politician, one must be a liar. So - lying about one's military service is a (modern) pre-requisite to elected office. |
Lying politician. But then I repeat myself.
However, lying about military service always has been and always should be over the line.
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05-21-2010, 23:16
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Yes, it's an integrity issue
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05-22-2010, 06:32
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What caused the housing crisis? The oncoming Social Security and Medicare crisis? Other problems too numerous to mention?
Lies.
A river of problems flows from a single character defect, albeit one shared by many.
Still worse, those who lie about their military service will surely be found out. So not only is the individual a liar, they are stupid about it.
We do not need to elect stupid liars, IMO.
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05-22-2010, 06:38
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05-22-2010, 09:11
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Yes.....no question about it!
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05-22-2010, 10:16
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Well Duh!
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05-24-2010, 08:17
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Real Marines Don't Lie
The link: http://www.nationalreview.com/the-fe...rines-dont-lie
Who knows what motivated Blumenthal to stretch his truth? Perhaps it was survivor’s guilt.
“There is nothing that binds Marines together like combat and, if you missed it, I can understand that he [Blumenthal] may have actually convinced himself he was there,” my brother wrote in an e-mail.
“But those who served in combat consider Marines who did not the same brothers, regardless. We are a team and those in the rear are just as important as those on the line.”
The deception, as always, is something else. Blumenthal had every right under the law to seek deferments. He had every right to be proud of his service during the Vietnam era. But he did not have the right to build personal equity on the borrowed suffering of others.
Had he gone to Vietnam, as he apparently thinks he should have, he would have learned that, and this: Real heroes never brag, and real Marines don’t lie.
Yes it should disqualify the POS.
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05-24-2010, 10:26
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It seems democrats possess no moral high ground and readily accept this sort of extremely disgusting behavior.
It amazes me when a sitting president can receive oral sex in the White House and lies straight faced to the entire world is caught and nothing is done. The second president to ever be impeached. I bet Chelsea Clinton is very proud of her father.
Now this scumbag Blumenthal lies to the world and is caught red-handed and the Democratic National Committee Chairman Tim Kaine thinks it's just fine.
Connecticut Attorney General Richard Blumenthal you are a true scumbag and a bottom feeder. It's time you run for president of the United States, seems you have what it takes for the job.
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2010...est=latestnews
Still, the top official in charge of electing Democrats said Sunday the controversy won't mar his reputation.
Democratic National Committee Chairman Tim Kaine said Sunday that Blumental was wrong to say that he had served in the Vietnam War, but that he's a known and reliable official for Connecticut voters.
"The interesting thing about Connecticut ... pretty intimate state. People tend to know their political leaders. And Attorney General Blumenthal has served for a lengthy period of time, got a very strong track record on military and veterans issues, for example," Kaine told "Fox News Sunday."
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05-26-2010, 22:05
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How about claiming taking imaginary sniper fire in Bosnia...? 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8BfNq...eature=related
And so it goes...
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