NYC Ground Zero Mosque

[olhamada]

Have you guys seen this? I'm freaking infuriated that they would even think about allowing something like this! How wrong and insensitive. How do we put a stop to this?

AND THE OPENING DATE IS 9/11/11!!!! What an insult!!! 10 years to the day.

http://www.nypost.com/p/news/nationa...WS0lXuAnQau5uL

I am really fed up with the liberal bleeding hearts in the country.

[T-Rock]

A Mosque at Ground Zero Equals Victory

May 19, 2010 - by Wafa Sultan

A new mosque is now being planned in New York near "Ground Zero," two blocks from where the World Trade Center used to be. This mosque is headed by an Imam, Feisal Abdul Rauf, founder of the Cordoba Initiative, who proposes to convert the now-shuttered Burlington Coat Factory on Park Place into an Islamic Cultural Center which would contain a mosque.

It is crucial to study the supremacist ideology of Islam and to recognize, for example, that the building of a mosque especially at Ground Zero is viewed by Muslims as a decisive victory over the infidels in Islam's march to establish its ultimate goal: the submission of all others to Islam and to Sharia Law.

On a daily bases, in so many parts of the world, deadly attacks are perpetrated by Jihadists either against non Muslims or, frequently, against Muslims -- especially Muslim women. The terror type of Jihad, however, is only one way for Islamists to accomplish their mission of making the "Kafir," or infidels, submit to Sharia Law. Another method is, as the author Robert Spencer calls it, an insidious, creeping "Stealth Jihad."

While Mr. Shahzad is the impatient Jihadist who attempts to destroy the West through terror, there is also the second type of Jihadist, who is much more patient, and who employs the "Stealth Jihad." The Stealth Jihadis are subtle in their approach and take their time to accomplish the same objective of submitting us all under Islam and under Sharia Law.

Recently, two separate episodes highlight this gloomy reality. The first is the attempted bombing of Times Square by the Pakistani terrorist, Faisal Shahzad, called by Leon de Winter "The Foreclosure Terrorist" from an anchor at CNN who said, "It can be confirmed that his house has been foreclosed in recent years. I mean, one would have to imagine, that brought a lot of pressure and a lot of heartache on that family."

To someone who grew up in a Muslim country, as I did, this can only be seen as ludicrous. Perhaps there should be a formal Fatwa, or religious edict called the "Foreclosure Jihad." No doubt, those at Al Azhar University in Cairo - the epicenter of Islamic jurisprudence -- might like this idea: It is an effective way to conceal the true narrative of Islam.

According to the Center of the study of Political Islam (www.politicalislam.com), over the last 1400 years, Muslims have murdered roughly 270 million kafirs [non-Muslims]; 60 million Christians, 80 million Hindus, 10 million Buddhists and around 120 million African slaves. Until today, as far as we know, there has not been any official acknowledgement or official apology by any official Islamic organization for these atrocities. This calamity is not a modern day phenomenon. It has been taking place since Islam's inception 1400 years ago.

This is what Imam Feisal Abdul Rauf, a few years ago, said at the Chautauqua Institution in New York:

"Seven centuries before the Declaration of Independence was written Shari'a Law was intended to protect life, religion, property, family and mental well being. This is why I assert that America is in fact a Shari'a compliant state".

The Imam avoids mentioning that Islamic Sharia allows, among other ruthless practices, to beat women to discipline them, and that Sharia also still sanctions slavery. Is that not a bit different from American set of laws? Does the Imam recommend that the US implement the previous two practices into our system to be a more "Sharia compliant state"?

The Imam also said, in Sydney, Australia, that "The US and the West must acknowledge the harm they have done to Muslims before terrorism can end."

The declaration of war on the West -- as Bin Laden declared initially -- was not, bear in mind, based on this "harm" allegedly done to Muslins, but on Hadith, [reports on the sayings and activities of Mohammaed and his companiois] of Mohammed in Al-Buchary:

"I have been ordered to fight and kill all mankind until they say no God except Allah and Mohammed is the prophet of Allah."

This Hadith declares war on non-Muslims -- to subjugate them under Islam irrespective of their deeds. If terrorism is caused by the "harm by the West to Muslims," why then do Sunni Muslims burn Shi'ite mosques in countries like Pakistan and Iraq? Why is it that Islamists have been throwing acid on the faces of women in countries such as Pakistan, Afghanistan, Algeria and Iran? Are these brutalities also committed because the West harms Muslims?

Further, we all know that while Muslims can build mosques and practice their religion freely in the West, non-Muslims are forbidden to do the same in Islamic countries. How harmful to them is that?

This Imam also stated:

"The Islamic method of waging war is not to kill innocent civilians. But it was Christians in World War II who bombed civilians in Dresden and Hiroshima, neither of which were military targets."

As for women, the Imam says that, with regard to the role of women, and the education of women in most Muslim countries, that women are very active and involved, and that misogyny exists primarily in the tribal countries of the Arabian Peninsula.

This is a shameful and deceitful portrayal. The status of women in the Muslim countries is a misfortune that the world has overlooked for centuries, and for which it is now paying a high price for having ignored.

"A God Who Hates," the book I wrote last year, is dedicated to the memory of my niece Mayyada, who cut her life short by committing suicide to escape the hellish marriage imposed upon her under Islamic Sharia Law. There are currently millions of women who experience similar unimaginable suffering, all sanctioned under the tacit approval of Sharia. Their accounts are untold stories of unthinkable oppression and misery.

Now we have a Muslim Imam, who aspires to implement Sharia in the West, and who is a slick and eloquent speaker disguised as a "moderate" Muslim. He uses Taqiyya, the Islamic concept which calls for Muslims to lie to the enemy and deceive him based on Quran 3:28, to fool non-Muslims and those who are gullible or ignorant, and who play right into his hands.

While Feisal Rauf opposes Faisal Shahzas's terror strategy, both share the same objective of subjugating the West under Islam and under Sharia Law - both Faisals are two sides of the same coin.

As for the majority of our U.S. population, they are basically being kept in the dark as words like "Islamic terror" and "Jihad" are not anymore considered by the establishment to be acceptable.To inform the public of the perils of the Jihadists' doctrine is politically incorrect.

So here is their formula: Muslims try to kill or subvert non-Muslims through treason, while the infidels avoid naming the doctrine and the theology from which Muslims' worldview emanates. By these means, non-Muslims permit radical Muslims to carry their agenda into the advanced stage of coercing us to capitulate.

The so called "progressives" and proponents of interfaith dialogue in the media, in academia, and in our government cannot accept that in Islam's supremacist ideology, there is no moral relativism. They cannot accept that when it comes to Islam, multiculturalism is a one-way street that serves Islam -- and the interests of Islam alone. There is no inclusion of other "ways," or cultures supported in the Quran. Even to allow or accommodate other viewpoints can cost a Muslim his or her life.

Under freedom of expression, Muslims, like any other group, have the right to criticize others. But where is the line drawn between freedom of expression and an act of sedition? Where is the acknowledgment that Islam teaches that Sharia Law supersedes all other laws - including the U.S. Constitution?

Here in the U.S., we are not learning a single lesson from the Islamization of Europe: as of now, we are moving in the same direction by the same "Stealth" tactics being used all over Europe -- infiltration into the highest levels of government; indoctrination of the public through misinformation; double standards provided by media outlets; intimidation, and threats, both veiled and public.

Thomas Mann, a German writer once said: "Tolerance is a crime when applied to evil." At the time, Mr. Mann was referring to the rise of Nazism in Germany. His statement is a wake-up call to us today, it speaks the truth. We must have the courage and commitment to act against these encroachments if freedom is to survive.

Dr. Wafa Sultan is a Syrian-certified psychiatrist and author of the book, "A God Who Hates."

http://www.hudsonny.org/2010/05/mosq...ls-victory.php

[Penn]

Now that's the issue is in the NY Post, the game changes; even the current administration in DC can read that wall…it won't step into this coming Shit Storm. Trust me, (my family runs the 98 IBEW in Philly) I cannot image the unions caving in on this. (they did clean up the “pile”) It’s a point of the cultural pride within the ranks as to who was there, when, and for how long. And, let’s not forget, absolutely nothing moves in NYC without union approval.

In one scenario, I can see the project costing billions and imploding. In another, I can see endless delays. I can see shit loads of rag heads reinforcing concrete; and I see lots of construction accidents, defamations of books, someone will no doubt use the Koran in a port potty, it will become a classic video and the rags heads will bring out the artillery, and then, it’s all over.

Some things will be interesting to watch: The NY times position and how long it takes them to weigh in on the issue.

Bloomberg….??????

Koch, Done and with an FU

I think the liberal members of community board 1 of Tribeca, are about to become persona no grata

BMA.

[incarcerated]

http://www.google.com/hostednews/afp...oz-TwXphISI0zg

France to build new mega-mosque

By Carole Landry (AFP) – 3 hours ago
MARSEILLE, France — French Muslims celebrate a milestone on Thursday when building work begins on a mega-mosque in Marseille, the nation's biggest, and a potent symbol of Islam's place in modern France.

A day after the French government approved a bill banning the full Islamic veil, Muslim leaders will join politicians for a ceremony to lay the cornerstone at a dusty construction site in northern Marseille.

France's second city is home to 250,000 Muslims, many of whom flock to makeshift prayer houses in basements, rented rooms and dingy garages to worship.

With a minaret soaring 25 metres (82 feet) high, the Grand Mosque will hold up to 7,000 people in its prayer room and the complex will also boast a Koranic school, library, restaurant and tea room when it opens in 2012....

[T-Rock]

Robert Spencer and Debra Burlingame, sister of one of the 9/11 pilots, discuss the proposed Ground Zero monster mosque and expose Imam Feisal Abdul Rauf:

> http://www.eyeblast.tv/public/video.aspx?v=XdqGkUqG2G

[greenberetTFS]

Originally Posted by T-Rock

Robert Spencer and Debra Burlingame, sister of one of the 9/11 pilots, discuss the proposed Ground Zero monster mosque and expose Imam Feisal Abdul Rauf:

> http://www.eyeblast.tv/public/video.aspx?v=XdqGkUqG2G

WTF,If this thing makes it,it would be a disgrace to America and to the people who died there............

Big Teddy

[echoes]

Got this in an email the other day from, ACT For America! It is a petition opposing the building of the mosque!!!

Hope this maybe rattles the chains of those who would seek to pervert the honor of Ground Zero.

Just click the link below, and under the picture of the burning Twin Towers, is the petition.

http://www.actforamerica.org/

Holly

[greenberetTFS]

Originally Posted by echoes

Got this in an email the other day from, ACT For America! It is a petition opposing the building of the mosque!!!

Hope this maybe rattles the chains of those who would seek to pervert the honor of Ground Zero.

Just click the link below, and under the picture of the burning Twin Towers, is the petition.

[url]http://www.actforamerica.org/[/u

Holly

Thanks for the e-mail address............

Big Teddy

[T-Rock]

It appears the founder of the Ground Zero Mosque, Imam Feisal Abdul Rauf, is part of the group who funded the Gaza Flotilla

The imam behind a proposed mosque near Ground Zero is a prominent member of a group that helped sponsor the pro-Palestinian activists who clashed violently with Israeli commandos at sea this week.

Imam Feisal Abdul Rauf is a key figure in Malaysian-based Perdana Global Peace Organization...

Perdana is the single biggest donor ($366,000) so far to the Free Gaza Movement, a key organizer of the six-ship flotilla that tried to break Israel’s blockade of the Hamas-run Gaza Strip Monday.

http://www.nypost.com/p/news/interna...HAVdRZEKgx29AK

I can't say that I disagree with Pat Condell > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vjS0Novt3X4

[Gypsy]

Beat me to it T-Rock.

A mosque at Ground Zero is just so freaking wrong on so many levels.

[Richard]

GZ2 - The Sequel - millions to build and $10 worth of gasoline to turn it into a charcoal pit for a pig roast. I hope I'm on the guest list.

And so it goes...

Richard's $.02

[Big Boss]

Originally Posted by Richard

GZ2 - The Sequel - millions to build and $10 worth of gasoline to turn it into a charcoal pit for a pig roast. I hope I'm on the guest list.

And so it goes...

Richard's $.02

I'll go undercover as your seeing eye dog.

[EasyIan]

Originally Posted by Richard

GZ2 - The Sequel - millions to build and $10 worth of gasoline to turn it into a charcoal pit for a pig roast. I hope I'm on the guest list.

I'll bring the beer.

[T-Rock]

The Two Faces of the Ground Zero Mosque

While the Cordoba Initiative appears to Americans as a sign of good faith and a new beginning with the Islamic world, to Muslims it represents conquest, dominance — even suicidal jihad against the infidel.

June 22, 2010 - by Raymond Ibrahim

Depending on whether Islamists address Americans or fellow Muslims, the same exact words they use often relay diametrically opposed meanings. One example: when Americans hear Muslims evoke “justice,” the former envision Western-style justice, whereas Muslims naturally have Sharia law justice in mind.


Islamists obviously use this to their advantage: when addressing the West, Osama bin Laden bemoans the “justice of our causes, particularly Palestine”; yet, when addressing Muslims, his notion of justice far transcends territorial disputes and becomes unintelligible from a Western perspective: “Battle, animosity, and hatred — directed from the Muslim to the infidel — is the foundation of our religion. And we consider this a justice and kindness to them. The West perceives fighting, enmity, and hatred all for the sake of the religion [i.e., Islam] as unjust, hostile, and evil. But who’s understanding is right — our notions of justice and righteousness, or theirs?” (Al Qaeda Reader, p. 43).


Of course, that Osama bin Laden — slayer of 3,000 Americans and avowed enemy to the rest — exhibits two faces, one to Americans another to Muslims, is not surprising. Yet the reader may well be surprised to discover that the controversial Cordoba Initiative, which plans on manifesting itself as the largest American mosque, situated atop Ground Zero — that is, atop the carnage caused by none other than bin Laden — also has two faces, conveying one thing to Americans, quite another to Muslims.


The very name of the initiative itself, “Cordoba,” offers different connotations to different people: In the West, the Andalusian city of Cordoba is regularly touted as the model of medieval Muslim progressiveness and tolerance for Christians and Jews. To many Americans, then, the choice to name the mosque “Cordoba” is suggestive of rapprochement and interfaith dialogue; atop the rubble of 9/11, it implies “healing” — a new beginning between Muslims and Americans. The Cordoba Initiative’s mission statement certainly suggests as much:


Cordoba Initiative aims to achieve a tipping point in Muslim-West relations within the next decade, bringing back the atmosphere of interfaith tolerance and respect that we have longed for since Muslims, Christians and Jews lived together in harmony and prosperity eight hundred years ago.


Oddly enough, the so-called “tolerant” era of Cordoba supposedly occurred during the caliphate of ‘Abd al-Rahman III (912-961) — well over a thousand years ago. “Eight hundred years ago,” i.e., around 1200, the fanatical Almohids — ideological predecessors of al-Qaeda — were ravaging Cordoba, where “Christians and Jews were given the choice of conversion, exile, or death.” A Freudian slip on the part of the Cordoba Initiative?


In fact, the true history of Cordoba, not to mention the whole of Andalusia, is far less inspiring than what Western academics portray: the Christian city was conquered by Muslims around 711, its inhabitants slaughtered or enslaved. The original mosque of Cordoba — the namesake of the Ground Zero mosque — was built atop, and partly from the materials of, a Christian church. Modern day Muslims are well aware of all this. Such is the true — and ominous — legacy of Cordoba.


More pointedly, throughout Islam’s history, whenever a region was conquered, one of the first signs of consolidation was/is the erection of a mosque atop the sacred sites of the vanquished: the pagan Ka‘ba temple in Arabia was converted into Islam’s holiest site, the mosque of Mecca; the al-Aqsa Mosque, Islam’s third holiest site, was built atop Solomon’s Temple in Jerusalem; the Umayyad Mosque was built atop the Church of St. John the Baptist; and the Hagia Sophia was converted into a mosque upon the conquest of Constantinople.


(In 2006, when the Pope visited the Hagia Sophia in Turkey, there was a risk that the “Islamic world [would go] into paroxysms of fury” if there was “any perception that the pope is trying to re-appropriate a Christian center that fell to Muslims” — this even as Muslims today seek to build a mosque on the rubble of the Twin Towers.)


Such double standards lead us back to the issue of double meanings. As for the literal wording of the mosque project, “Cordoba House,” it too offers opposing paradigms of thought: to Westerners, the English word “house” suggests shelter, intimacy — coziness, even; in classical Arabic, however, the word for house, dar, can also mean “region,” and is regularly used in a divisive sense, as in Dar al-Harb, i.e., “infidel region of war.” Thus, to Muslim ears, while “Cordoba” offers allusions of conquest and domination, dar is further suggestive of division and separation (from infidels, a la the doctrine of al-Wala’ wa al-Bara’, for instance).


Words aside, even the mosque’s scheduled opening date — 9/11/2011 — has two aspects: to Americans, opening the mosque on 9/11 is to proclaim a new beginning with the Muslim world on the ten-year anniversary of the worst terror strikes on American soil; however, it just so happens that Koranic verse 9:111 is one of the loftiest calls for suicidal jihad and is probably the reason al-Qaeda originally chose that date to strike. So while Americans may think the mosque’s planned 9/11 opening is meant to commemorate that date, it may well be a cryptic evocation for all out war. A “new beginning,” indeed, but of a very different sort, namely, the propagation of more Islamists and jihadists — mosques are, after all, epicenters of radicalization — on, of all places, soil sacred to America.


Some final thoughts on the history of Cordoba and the ominous parallels it bodes for America: though many Christian regions were conquered by Islam prior to Cordoba, its conquest signified the first time a truly “Western” region was conquered by the sword of Islam. It was also used as a base to launch further attacks into the heart of Europe (until decisively beaten at the Battle of Tours), just as, perhaps, the largest mosque in America will be used as a base to subvert the rest of the United States. And the sacking of the original Cordoba was facilitated by an insider traitor — a warning to the U.S., which seems to have no end of traitors and willing lackeys.


Such, then, is the dual significance of the Cordoba Initiative: What appears to many Americans as a gesture of peace and interfaith dialogue, is to Muslims reminiscent of Islamist conquest and consolidation; mosques, which Americans assume are Muslim counterparts to Christian churches — that is, places where altruistic Muslims congregate and pray for world peace and harmony — are symbols of domination and centers of radicalization; the numbers of the opening date, 9/11/11, appear to Americans as commemorative of a new beginning, whereas the Koranic significance of those numbers is suicidal jihad. Of course, the two faces of the Cordoba House should not be surprising considering that the man behind the initiative, Feisal Abdul Rauf, also has two faces.


Going along with the historic analogy, there is one bit of good news: As opposed to the vast majority of onetime Western/Christian nations annexed by Islam, Spain did ultimately manage to overthrow the Islamic yoke. Though only after some 700 years of occupation.

http://pajamasmedia.com/blog/the-two...inglepage=true

ETA:

Sura 9:111 "Surely Allah has bought of the believers their persons and their property for this, that they shall have the garden; they fight in Allah's way, so they slay and are slain; a promise which is binding on Him in the Taurat and the Injeel and the Quran; and who is more faithful to his covenant than Allah? Rejoice therefore in the pledge which you have made; and that is the mighty achievement"

[T-Rock]

WTH

"All the law that a Muslim needs is in the Qur'an and the Hadith, sayings of the Prophet Muhammad"
~Imam Feisal Abdul Rauf~

Just after 9/11, people would ask me, why do so many movements with political agendas take a religious name? Why are they called the Muslim Brotherhood, or Hizbullah, which means Party of God, or Hamas, which is an acronym for the Islamic Resistance Movement? I tell them that the Muslim approach to law and justice begins with religious language because secular movements have failed to deliver what Muslims want – life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness.

If that sounds suspiciously like the Declaration of Independence, that's because – contrary to what many people in the West believe – Islamic law and American democratic principles have many things in common.

http://www.commongroundnews.org/arti...=en&sid=1&sp=0

ETA Video - "Sharia Law And US Constitution is The Same" > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tT8s1a1E4nk

* An average American Muslim explains Sharia, the Muslims Constitution:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_qxjocm5fCc