The game changing speech, listen closely

Penn · 05-09-2010, 11:07

The full simulcast of the Russia parade can be viewed here:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bxPAd...ayer_embedded#!

If you advance the time line to Approximately 15:30 you will begin viewing and listening to the speech by the Russian President Medvedev……imo, it is the most significant speech to date of any world leader, and heralds a change of consciousness in confronting, once again, a code of belief which left us with one choice ”conquer the enemy, or become slaves”. 16:48

1. The symbolism attached to this 65th anniversary is extremely important with regard to current world affairs.

2. It reunites the allied force which defeated Nazism; “an end was put to an ideology that was to destroying the foundation of western civilization”. 15:57

3. “we (collectively) march today in single rank”… “our common readiness to defend peace” 18:19

4. The comparison to then and now is overwhelming.

5. Commitment 19:12 - 19:52

incarcerated · 05-09-2010, 13:37

Was that a 1973 Buick convertible?
Why does some of the music sound like what you hear at the bullfights in Tijuana?
Evidence of economic subterfuge and unfair trade practices: the Russians must be controlling the world market for white-walls.

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Originally Posted by Penn

If you advance the time line to Approximately 15:30 you will begin viewing and listening to the speech by the Russian President Medvedev……

5. Commitment 19:12 - 19:52

Translation:
“Western powers, please allow me to invoke the war dead of decades past and preach peace from my Red Square bully pulpit. Look the other way as we invade or subvert our Russian neighbors as we restore our national strength. The USSR saved the world, therefore, overlook our incursions into the sovereignty of former Soviet Republics as we install puppet regimes, and perhaps we will think about lending you some assistance in dealing with Iran. But I will have to ask Putin what exactly he will allow me to do in that regard.”

The Russians are continuing a fine European tradition…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vacfs...eature=related
...namely, the demonstration of national power. (They’re a little short on the Cult of Personality dimension…but give them time.)

**Peregrino** · 05-09-2010, 14:40

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Originally Posted by incarcerated

(They’re a little short on the Cult of Personality dimension…but give them time.)

First you need a personality on which to found the cult. The Medvedev sock puppet has a ways to go before it acheives the iconic stature of historic cult leaders. (Nice translation BTW. Do you do that kind of thing for a living?

)

incarcerated · 05-09-2010, 15:02

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Originally Posted by Peregrino

(Nice translation BTW. Do you do that kind of thing for a living?

)

Well, not exactly. I possess no language skills. However, I am well known at work as a sarcastic pain in the a**.

newbie · 05-09-2010, 16:10

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...-Hitchens.html

lots of good insight from actual russians, and russian military strategists. Russia, it seems, is not all it's cracked up to be.

Utah Bob · 05-09-2010, 17:24

Cut to the chase. Where are our troops?

Found it! They are at 30:41, albeit briefly, between the Brits and the French.

Crue · 05-09-2010, 18:50

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Originally Posted by newbie

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...-Hitchens.html

lots of good insight from actual russians, and russian military strategists. Russia, it seems, is not all it's cracked up to be.

I think the writer ( who is not Russian ) needs to understand that it is a MILITARY Victory day...that is why there is soldiers and tanks on parade.

I have been following all these Russian threads lately because I am surrounded by it at home. For the wife and in-laws ( Russians) today is a pretty big deal. We get a few channels from Russia and parade rehearsals and WW2 movies have been on 24/7 about a week now.

nmap · 05-09-2010, 19:49

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Originally Posted by newbie

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...-Hitchens.html

Excellent article. Thank you, Newbie.

Penn · 05-09-2010, 20:46

If I understand the responses correctly, none of you agree with my interpretation of this speech, or its relationship to the confrontation with radical Islam; am I correct?

nmap · 05-09-2010, 22:02

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Originally Posted by Penn

If I understand the responses correctly, none of you agree with my interpretation of this speech, or its relationship to the confrontation with radical Islam; am I correct?

I guess I don't see much action by Russia against Iran - or, for that matter, other radical Islamic states. It's difficult for me to see the speech as targeted against radical Islam when I see so little evidence of strong action elsewhere. But perhaps I'm missing something?

Crue · 05-09-2010, 22:04

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Originally Posted by Penn

If I understand the responses correctly, none of you agree with my interpretation of this speech, or its relationship to the confrontation with radical Islam; am I correct?

I would have to know if this speech was proof read by Putin or not. I take everything Medvedev says with a grain of salt. I would like to see what happens in 2012 and if Putin decides to run again. There is still ALOT of love for Putin for your average Russian that remembers the turmoil of the 90's and how he united the country.

alright4u · 05-10-2010, 01:12

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Originally Posted by Penn

The full simulcast of the Russia parade can be viewed here:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bxPAd...ayer_embedded#!

If you advance the time line to Approximately 15:30 you will begin viewing and listening to the speech by the Russian President Medvedev……imo, it is the most significant speech to date of any world leader, and heralds a change of consciousness in confronting, once again, a code of belief which left us with one choice ”conquer the enemy, or become slaves”. 16:48

1. The symbolism attached to this 65th anniversary is extremely important with regard to current world affairs.

2. It reunites the allied force which defeated Nazism; “an end was put to an ideology that was to destroying the foundation of western civilization”. 15:57

3. “we (collectively) march today in single rank”… “our common readiness to defend peace” 18:19

4. The comparison to then and now is overwhelming.

5. Commitment 19:12 - 19:52

Damn sure looks like goose stepping to me.

Utah Bob · 05-10-2010, 08:26

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Originally Posted by nmap

I guess I don't see much action by Russia against Iran - or, for that matter, other radical Islamic states. It's difficult for me to see the speech as targeted against radical Islam when I see so little evidence of strong action elsewhere. But perhaps I'm missing something?

They are only in opposition to Radical Islam when it concerns them, as in some of their recalcitrant republics. If Al Queda or Iranians started blowing up Moscow trains it would be different. But until then they'll only pay it lip service.

Dad · 05-10-2010, 09:21

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Originally Posted by Penn

If I understand the responses correctly, none of you agree with my interpretation of this speech, or its relationship to the confrontation with radical Islam; am I correct?

Penn I think you might be right. Sure hope so. I think radical Islam is a greater threat to them than us and they know it. I think we have poked the bear with a stick a little too much in the past but hopefully we can put that behind us.

Penn · 05-13-2010, 13:48

I have no hard evidence, but I see a developing trend among the former allies to realign themselves, as an action of realpolitik. The following leads me further down this path co-operation.

http://www.csmonitor.com/World/Europ...-more-pro-West

Leaked Russian document: Could Medvedev era tilt more pro-West?
A leaked Russian document lays out a major reappraisal of the country's foreign policy priorities under President Medvedev. The confidential Foreign Ministry report calls on the Kremlin to abandon the prickly, go-it-alone approaches of the Vladimir Putin era.