05-02-2010, 12:40
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British sniper shoots dead two Taliban fighters... from more than 1.5 miles away
British sniper shoots dead two Taliban fighters... from more than 1.5 miles away
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A British Army sniper has earned a place in military history by killing two Taliban machine gunners from more than a mile and a half away.
Craig Harrison's record-breaking sharpshooting felled the insurgents with consecutive bullets - even though they were 3,200ft beyond the effective range of his rifle.
The Household Cavalry veteran's kills from a distance of 8,120ft eclipsed the previous sniper record by 150ft.
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05-02-2010, 13:27
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I'm really interested on how our (forum) snipers address this one.......... 
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05-02-2010, 15:11
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05-02-2010, 15:49
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.338 Lapua Magnum IIRC. The Canadians did theirs with a .50 BMG McMillan. The Rifle Gods smiled on him (or frowned on the Taliban, whichever you prefer). 
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05-02-2010, 16:16
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.338 Lapua Magnum IIRC. The Canadians did theirs with a .50 BMG McMillan. The Rifle Gods smiled on him (or frowned on the Taliban, whichever you prefer). |
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'Conditions were perfect, no wind, mild weather, clear visibility.
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It would seem they were.
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05-02-2010, 18:05
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Is that American miles or metric miles?
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05-02-2010, 19:56
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Could one of the LOONG barrel guys please educate this FOG.
I found this chunk of ballistic table for the 338 Lapua 250 Grain Black Hills ammo, that implies a drop of 3368 inch(280 ft) at 7500 ft (2500 yds).
http://www.vandykerifles.com/338blue.htm
Do the Brits use 6x6 blocks under the rear scope mount??
How does one hold over by a football field??
Inquiring minds want to know???
This is in no way a call out on the Brit Sniper, I just can't fathom the geometry.
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05-02-2010, 20:09
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The 338 Lapua has a max effective, under ideal conditions, of about 1200 meters, they are claiming 1500 meters in the article but their own doctrine claims harassing at 1500.
At the range of that target, a minute of angle equals about 29 inches. In all of the previous shots that I have read about, the sniper admits to aiming at a group or area target and hitting a point target after firing numerous rounds. I find this shot incredulous. To fire three shots and get three hits is beyond all wild expectations.
I have shot at targets at 2000+ meters and a one mph wind will blow you off the target at those ranges. His target was at about 2475 meters. I respect the .338 but not that much. Even the over touted Chey Tec shows groups bigger than that at their "long ranges".
ON the trig, you are right, I doubt that he could see the target at that range. There is not enough elevation in the scope to fire at that range, and if he was using all the elevation AND a Horus reticle, he would have a problem as the scope would have to be down powered to get that low in the Horus reticle.
Not calling him out, just suspect a bad range estimation on the final target range. These things snowball, especially when you have a former colonist shooting better then the Queen's own. Can't have that what.
My thoughts on the matter.
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05-02-2010, 20:41
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At the range of that target, a minute of angle equals about 29 inches.
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At 8,120 ft, 1 MOA = 28.34" to be precise. 
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05-02-2010, 21:02
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What about shooting downhill?
Interesting also, at that range, the bullet velocity and energy is less than a .22 at 100 yards. http://www.shootingtimes.com/ballist...fle_hivel.html
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05-02-2010, 21:22
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I just want one of those S&B scopes. Nothing I own (or could ever afford to own) would allow me to distinguish a threat at that distance; let alone hit it. Personal preference at that range - give me a spotting scope to see with and a 60mm mortar to "interdict" with and I'll be a happy camper.
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05-02-2010, 21:53
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. . . the sniper admits to aiming at a group or area target and hitting a point target after firing numerous rounds. I find this shot incredulous. To fire three shots and get three hits is beyond all wild expectations.
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Here is what I find incredulous -- that there are people in this world so stupid that they STAND STILL while people near them are exploding.
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05-02-2010, 22:32
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Mil that
When it comes to distance and shooting...the math gets a little hazy for some. I can see having a modern day hero for the Brits...but this is just a bit too inflated. I would like to see that replicated. I understand we will not get all the environmental elements the same, but the distance should be attainable. At any rate, more dead bad guys....good on em'
"Mr. Tom Irwin, a director of Accuracy International, the British manufacturer of the L115A3 rifle, said: “It is still fairly accurate beyond 1,500 m (1,640 yd), but at that distance luck plays as much of a part as anything.”
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05-03-2010, 04:03
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Here is what I find incredulous -- that there are people in this world so stupid that they STAND STILL while people near them are exploding.
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Maybe they were at a prayer meeting and just took the people exploding as a "sign"...
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05-03-2010, 04:43
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For those of you offering opinions on the validity of the claims, it would be helpful if you would identify yourselves as sniper qualified or not.
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