08-01-2004, 19:37
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Tactical Handgun Lighting
Gents:
Just recently acquired my first personally purchased tactical handgun light.
I bought a Surefire X200A, which I had previously examined at the Shot Show. It is a 6v. light, momentary or constantly switched, and it is absolutely tiny for the illumination it puts out. It will also slip quite handily on any rifle or carbine with a free section of 1913 rail, I tried it on my M-4 and it works great at less than half the size of the WeaponsLights. This light also makes a very convenient hand held light. I have decided that if not mounted already, this light will go in my tactical vest permanently.
I had no pistol on hand with a tactical rail, so I had to order a rail and have it installed.
I bought the Caspian Recon Rail, and had my local smith install it on my house pistol, a modified Para P-13 Limited.
Here are a few pics of the weapon with the rail, which is a pretty compact package.
Hope this helps someone who is looking for a light.
TR
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08-01-2004, 19:39
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Dammit, wheres the light??????????
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08-01-2004, 19:41
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There is another version of the switch available that is a pressure tape type with the switch located back under the triggerguard.
The X200A version I have is a push momentaty, rotate constant switch system.
As I understand it, the switches are interchangable by replacing the rear battery compartment cover, which contains the switch.
This is the light mounted. Note the very compact package.
TR
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08-01-2004, 19:42
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Whew, much better..
Nice light!
(nice background bag also!)
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08-01-2004, 19:42
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Quote:
Originally posted by Team Sergeant
Dammit, wheres the light??????????
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Slow down, there, Hoss!
I can only post once per minute due to board limitations.
Light is on.
TR
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08-01-2004, 19:44
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Whew, much better..
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Hey, I think they even fit the H&Ks. They come with two latches for the different rails.
This light is the heat, TS!
TR
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08-01-2004, 20:25
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Very nice Sir. Gotta be the most compact pistol mounted tac light on the market right now.
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08-01-2004, 20:31
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SWEET! Now - what's the skinny? Tech specs, sources, prices, etc. You can't just throw it out there for bragging rights and leave the rest of us hanging. And what are you planning to use for a holster when it's all said and done? YIS - Peregrino
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08-01-2004, 20:47
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Details, details, I guess your Search or Google button is broken as well....
It can be had for under $200, BTW.
TR
http://www.surefire.com/maxexp/main....110&sesent=0,0
X200 LED WeaponLight (X200)
PRICE: $ 250.00
The X200 features aluminum body construction and a special computer engineered Total Internal Refection (TIR) focusing lens for a tight diamond-shaped central beam and a broad peripheral corona. The special lens allows the X200 to project a tightly focused beam at greater distances than comparably sized lights. The window is constructed of tempered Pyrex® and has an anti-reflective coating. The X200 is designed to fit both the Universal Standard rail as well as the MIL STD M-1913 (Picatinny) rail, and includes adapter plates for both. A momentary toggle/push switch allows fail-safe ambidextrous function under fire.
The X200 also features digital current regulation circuitry to match the LED's current requirements with the battery's output to maintain a more consistent level of light output for the useable life of the batteries (as opposed to unregulated lights, which are subject to a steady decline in light intensity beginning shortly after activation). The X200 produces over an hour of tactical light output followed by 30 minutes of declining intensity light.
Batteries - Two SureFire lithium SF123 3.0 Volt with 10-year shelf life
1.34" high by 1.43" wide by 3.47" long
Weighs less than 4 ounces
Direct mounts to all rail-equipped Glocks and other popular handguns including Beretta, SIG, Springfield and Kimber
Instantly attaches and detaches
Extended runtime
Includes rail interface kit for conversion to Picatinny rail
Superior smoke-cutting ability
Accepts optional pressure-activated switch that extends under trigger guard. Pressure-pad tape switch for long guns coming soon.
MilSpec Type III hard-anodized aluminum construction
Waterproof to 30m/99ft
Ambidextrous momentary and constant-on switch
Flawless beam, always in focus
Bright enough to momentarily blind an opponent
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08-01-2004, 21:04
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See - All you have to do is jerk their chain and they come through on the challenge.  Now the rest of us need to see if we can get enough interest for a group buy. I have it from a reliable source (who must remain unnamed) that if we can generate enough interest, he has a POC who might be able to get a decent group price. I for one am interested, especially if my wife doesn't see this post before I can get another job to pay for it! YIS - Peregrino
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08-02-2004, 07:28
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Quote:
Originally posted by Peregrino
See - All you have to do is jerk their chain and they come through on the challenge. Now the rest of us need to see if we can get enough interest for a group buy. I have it from a reliable source (who must remain unnamed) that if we can generate enough interest, he has a POC who might be able to get a decent group price. I for one am interested, especially if my wife doesn't see this post before I can get another job to pay for it! YIS - Peregrino
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I'm in for the group buy.
Great photos TR....once again setting the standard!
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08-02-2004, 07:29
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Nice! I think I may need two.
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08-02-2004, 08:28
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Guy, I do not see that as unreasonable.
For those not familiar with the Surefire lights, the two lithium batteries have over a 10 year shelf life (unrefrigerated) and are only $15 per dozen from Surefire. The light provides an hour of high intensity illumination, followed by continuing light at a decreased output, and due to the LED lamp, never requires a bulb replacement.
Thanks, Joe!
TR
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08-02-2004, 09:05
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Quote:
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...two lithium batteries have over a 10 year shelf life (unrefrigerated)...
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Does that indicate that you suggest refrigerated batteries have a longer shelf life?
I was taught that cold unloads batteries, which is why in arctic environments you are supposed to take them out of your tractor and dig them a hole which you isolate and then cover.
That is according to the Swedish mil, but I've heard elsewhere to put them in a refrigerator.
A certain temperature range, perhaps?
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08-02-2004, 11:18
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I have seen a few of these lights. I like the size and the light output. That being said, I am not a fan of the rocker switch. On all of the examples I have seen, the switch was "Mushy" and lacked positive clicks when engaged. If I were to get one of these, I would go for the "Low Profile" switch, or the tape switch.
Just My $.02
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