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Old 04-17-2010, 12:36   #1
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Volcano Ash Cloud

A very good friend of our family was injured by an IED while serving with his Army unit in Iraq, last week. He is on hold now to fly to Ft. Cambell due to this event. Hope it is not causing any other major problems for the military...

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Volcano Ash Cloud Flight Disruptions Worsen In Europe: Italy Closes Airspace
PAISLEY DODDS and SYLVIA HUI | 04/17/10 12:53 PM |

A lingering volcanic ash plume forced extended no-fly restrictions over much of Europe on Saturday, as scientists warned that activity at a volcano in Iceland had increased and showed no sign of abating – a portent of more travel chaos to come.

Scientists say that because the volcano is situated below a glacial ice cap, the magma is being cooled quickly, causing explosions and plumes of grit that can be catastrophic to plane engines if prevailing winds are right.

"The activity has been quite vigorous overnight, causing the eruption column to grow," Icelandic geologist Magnus Tumi Gudmundsson told The Associated Press on Saturday. "It's the magma mixing with the water that creates the explosivity. Unfortunately, there doesn't seem to be an end in sight."

An expansive cloud of grit hovered over parts of western Europe on Saturday, triggering extended flight bans that stranded people around the globe. Forecasters said light prevailing winds in Europe – and large amounts of unmelted glacial ice above the volcano – mean that the situation is unlikely to change in the coming days.

"Currently the U.K. and much of Europe is under the influence of high pressure, which means winds are relatively light and the dispersal of the cloud is slow," said Graeme Leitch, a meteorologist at Britain's National Weather Service. "We don't expect a great deal of change over the next few days."

Matthew Roberts, at the Icelandic Meteorological Office, said only about a third of the total quantity of glacial ice in the crater has melted. "There could be days' worth of water and ice mixed with the eruptive products," he told the BBC.

The ash plume was rising to about 30,000 feet (9,144 meters) with intensifying volcanic activity, Leitch said. It is possible for planes to fly over the ash cloud, he said, although it is up to individual countries to decide whether they should open higher airspace.

Aviation experts say the volcanic plume has caused the worst travel disruption Europe – and the world – has ever seen, except during wars.
"I've been flying for 40 years, but I've never seen anything like this in Europe," said Swedish pilot Axel Alegren, after landing his flight from Kabul, Afghanistan, at Munich Airport; he had been due to land at Frankfurt but was diverted.

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Old 04-17-2010, 13:07   #2
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The CO2 released by the volcano will probably push Iceland over their Kyoto limits.

Where's al gore?
Something must be done about this global warming outrage.
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Old 04-17-2010, 13:36   #3
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Well, there are a lot of people waiting for this thing to pass so we can get on with our lives.

I'm working an extra week because I can't get home and my relief can't get here. My brother is 'stuck' in Eastern Europe because of this too.

I'm sure there are quite a few trying to get home from Germany (i.e. Landstuhl).

I was told that the last time thing erupted, it erupted for two years(1821 to 1823).

I wonder how that will effect the EU if the cloud keeps spreading like it is.
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Old 04-17-2010, 13:45   #4
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Talk about bad luck.

It couldn't have happened at a worse time. First their financial based economy collapses and now they're suffering from the fallout of a volcanic eruption. The rest of Europe is going to suffer economic consequences as well because of all of the lost airline business.

When it rains it pours...

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Old 04-17-2010, 16:20   #5
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It's really awful. My SIL's brother died and his son is stuck in Germany. I really feel badly for him.

Good luck to everyone who has to get somewhere.
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Old 04-17-2010, 19:38   #6
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http://www.stripes.com/article.asp?s...&article=69398

Volcanic ash grounds some military flights, diverts others

By Kent Harris and Jennifer Svan, Stars and Stripes
European edition, Saturday, April 17, 2010
RAMSTEIN AIR BASE, Germany — Hovering debris from an Icelandic volcano kept U.S. military flights in Europe on the ground for a second-straight day Friday, slowing troop and supply transport to the war zones and diverting some medical evacuation flights.

Ramstein Air Base in Germany, normally the busiest military hub on the continent, had recently boosted flights into and out of Afghanistan as part of President Barack Obama’s order for 30,000 additional troops there.

Flights headed downrange, needing to cross the Atlantic Ocean from the States, are “at a halt,” said Air Force Lt. Col. Jim Dryjanski, 86th Operations Group deputy commander at Ramstein.

For aircraft moving between Europe and Afghanistan, a southern route through Spain and the Mediterranean is still open, he said.

Naval Station Rota and Moron Air Base in Spain are seeing about twice the flights they normally do, according to Navy Lt. Ben Tisdale.

All flights and heavy-lift aircraft operations into and out of Spangdahlem Air Base, Germany, have also been postponed due to the volcanic ash, said base spokeswoman Air Force 2nd Lt. Kathleen Polesnak.

About half the additional airlift missions tied to the buildup in Afghanistan were to route through Ramstein and Spangdahlem, Air Force officials announced earlier this year.

European aviation officials said that, since the ash cloud was moving slowly, all civilian flights are expected to be disrupted at least through Saturday. Air Force officials said they would be monitoring the situation, and altering routes depending where the ash cloud moves.

All medical flights headed to Landstuhl Regional Medical Center in Germany had ceased as well, said Navy Cmdr. Glen Crawford, officer-in-charge of Landstuhl’s Deployed Warrior Medical Management Center. The hospital is normally the first stop for American troops wounded in Iraq and Afghanistan, but the ash cloud means such flights will be diverted to the U.S.

So far, one medical evacuation flight from downrange has been re-routed directly to Joint Base Andrews outside Washington, said Navy Capt. Kevin Aandahl, a spokesman for U.S. Transportation Command.

Upon landing, the patients were to be taken directly to Walter Reed Army Medical Center or the National Naval Medical Center in Bethesda, Md.

“The patients will continue to get the same level of care,” Crawford said. “The only difference is the patients who have to be moved out of theater will have a longer flight.”

A flight set to bring patients from Landstuhl to the States on Friday was canceled.

The two main U.S. military bases in England, RAF Lakenheath and RAF Mildenhall, also were at a standstill.

Lt. Col. David Iverson, deputy chief of the 48th Operations Group at Lakenheath, said the base’s fleet of F-15s were all inside protective shelters. The move is precautionary, because there was no ash falling on the ground that might make its way into the jets’ engines.

The bases have aircraft participating in exercises in the Netherlands and Germany that have been put on hold. Both Brilliant Ardent and Frisian Flag are scheduled to run through Thursday and Air Force officials believe they’ll resume some time next week.

Troops who flew away from their homes in England to celebrate spring break with their children were looking at other modes of transportation to get back home, according to Claire Fadden, who works at the Sato travel office at Lakenheath.

“People have been stuck in various locations around Europe and are trying to take the train or other forms of transportation,” she said. “We’re trying to help as best we can.”

The passenger terminal at Ramstein was also open, though it, too, was nearly deserted Friday.

A few soldiers trying to get Afghanistan were optimistically signing up for military flights on Saturday.

“They’re hoping to get us out tomorrow but it looks kind of shaky,” said Army Sgt. 1st Class Donald Edison, 44, who was headed to Kandahar after a weeks-long medical convalescence at Landstuhl Regional Medical Center.

Headed the opposite direction was Army 2nd Lt. Katie Ray, 24, a member of a North Dakota guard unit who was trying to get home to Ann Arbor, Mich., to see her family. Ray and more than a dozen fellow soldiers were stranded at Ramstein en route to the States from Kosovo.

“We were supposed to have two weeks of leave [before going back to Kosovo], but it keeps getting shorter,” she said.

Stars and Stripes reporters Geoff Ziezulewicz, Seth Robbins, Jeff Schogol, and Marcus Kloeckner contributed to this report.
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Old 04-18-2010, 05:50   #7
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I hope the ash cloud forecasts are as bad as the weather forecasts.

Our youngest is getting married in June in Italy:
  • tickets are purchased
  • reservation made
  • band booked
  • church secured
  • bar resupply(s) scheduled
  • gown fitted
  • bank account emptied
  • bags are being packed..

The worry is on...
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Old 04-18-2010, 11:52   #8
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The CO2 released by the volcano will probably push Iceland over their Kyoto limits.

Where's al gore?
Something must be done about this global warming outrage.
One could argue that the eruption is serving to do what the green movement could not: That is, to force us to give our skies a chance to breath and take a break from all the UNnatural emissions released by the thousands of aircraft that constantly grace our skies.

JJ_BPK, I am not a betting person, but the cloud should have dispersed by June. Hope your plans will be unaffected.

They are already sending out test flights and resuming routes where possible. My flight to Europe just got the green light. Should probably pack extra though
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Old 04-18-2010, 12:18   #9
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One could argue that the eruption is serving to do what the green movement could not: That is, to force us to give our skies a chance to breath and take a break from all the UNnatural emissions released by the thousands of aircraft that constantly grace our skies.
Who cares if it is natural or unnatural? If CO2 is the danger all these green nitwits claim it is than the temporary respite from European flights pales in comparison to the amount of CO2 released in this one event.
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Old 04-18-2010, 16:54   #10
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One could argue that the eruption is serving to do what the green movement could not: That is, to force us to give our skies a chance to breath and take a break from all the UNnatural emissions released by the thousands of aircraft that constantly grace our skies.
brown77,
Well, guess I am just glad this type of thinking wasn't around during WWII. Uggh!!!!!!!!!!


Rubberneck, You nailed it!

JJ, Congrats on the wedding!!! Your mise en place is ready, so think positive!!!

Holly

And p.s.....Our friend made it to Cambell yesterday, so there is hope!
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Currently in the UK. 18 APR 2010 flight to US cancelled. No Idea when we will be able to return to the CONUS. Staying in Ashford and the weather has been just great, clear skys and warm temps, no local evdence of volcanic ash here. Last bit of news here was that the British Navy is dispatching some her ships to pick up stranded Brits.

I'll keep you psoted as best I can.

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Currently in the UK. 18 APR 2010 flight to US cancelled. No Idea when we will be able to return to the CONUS. Staying in Ashford and the weather has been just great, clear skys and warm temps, no local evdence of volcanic ash here. Last bit of news here was that the British Navy is dispatching some her ships to pick up stranded Brits.

I'll keep you psoted as best I can.

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If your in London, check out this club.

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There is not sign of the door, You need to call before going. It's about 3 block East of Harrod's, in a residential area.

I stumbled on it last year while looking for a friends address. Not sure who can get in, but I think there is a visitors status. Let us know if you get in.

I will be in London in June and was planning to look up the place.
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If your in London, check out this club.

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London, SW1,
Tel: 0171 589 9483,
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Robert Cowell Historical Sect.

There is not sign of the door, You need to call before going. It's about 3 block East of Harrod's, in a residential area.

I stumbled on it last year while looking for a friends address. Not sure who can get in, but I think there is a visitors status. Let us know if you get in.

I will be in London in June and was planning to look up the place.
Thanks JJ!

About 90 min SE of London, near Dover. If I'm here more than a few days, I'll call and visit. I do have my SFA membership card with me.

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I hope the ash cloud forecasts are as bad as the weather forecasts.

Our youngest is getting married in June in Italy:
  • tickets are purchased
  • reservation made
  • band booked
  • church secured
  • bar resupply(s) scheduled
  • gown fitted
  • bank account emptied
  • bags are being packed..

The worry is on...
JJ

Time to get the boat out and start heading east..... Might make it by June...

Seriously it should be clear by then I HOPE.....
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Thanks JJ!

About 90 min SE of London, near Dover. If I'm here more than a few days, I'll call and visit. I do have my SFA membership card with me.

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It's worth the trip if you're an OSS buff - they have a lot of out-of-print books, diaries, etc. in the library. The food is pretty poor, though, so I would eat before leaving London and just enjoy drinks there.
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