04-14-2010, 14:22
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Meet the New Face of Business Leadership
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04-14-2010, 15:29
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I have issue with the exclusion of NCO's in this article - the Military is not just managed by Officers.
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04-14-2010, 15:43
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While I appreciate the article for highlighting the contributions of America's citizen-soldiers in the private sector, it does offer an odd take on American military history.
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Whatever one may think of the wars they have been sent to fight, there's no question that these people can lead. And they are products of a military that has now learned, in response to unconventional warfare, to value independent and adaptive thinking.
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04-14-2010, 20:06
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I have issue with the exclusion of NCO's in this article - the Military is not just managed by Officers.
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They are going after junior officers, the ones who have completed their ROTC and WP required service. They got a free education, got some travel, got serious experience leading people, accomplishing missions and operating / maintaining serious equipment and systems. And are now looking to quit and cash in.
Now does that sound like a Non-Commissioned Officer to you? (The bold part)
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04-15-2010, 05:09
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I have issue with the exclusion of NCO's in this article - the Military is not just managed by Officers.
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These former junior officers are just what they need - someone who'll do what they're told, will be loyal to the company to the exclusion of their subordinates, and have a "boloney meter" that's still set pretty high. Ever seen a senior NCO or senior warrant officer get told to do something that they've seen tried before with disasterous consequences? They throw a penalty flag and call it the way it is. They guys and gals don't have the experiencial history to be a threat to the corporate line of thought.
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04-15-2010, 15:52
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Having worked in the corporate and educational worlds for a while, I must say that I usually appreciate working for someone with military experience, even if that experience is as a junior officer. They tend to be a bit more grounded in reality - and leadership - "than the average bear."
That said, my new evening school administrator is a retired US Army Master Sergeant. He is a breath of fresh air. Direct. To the point. No BS. (Of course, he was sort of chased away from "regular" admin into the "end of the road" assignment as evening school principal. It seems the regular admin (all women, hmmmmm) couldn't deal with him insisting on an agenda, sticking to the agenda, and staying away from non-school issues. (By the way, he has never said a word about any of this. I got this from my "sources" - always befriend admin. assistants.)
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04-16-2010, 11:32
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I have issue with the exclusion of NCO's in this article - the Military is not just managed by Officers.
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I wholeheartedly agree,veteran NCO's need not apply  Thats BS ............. 
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04-16-2010, 18:21
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The corporations are looking for young managers. They're naturally going to go after company grade officers. Junior enlisted men will stand in the unemployment line. Senior NCO's probably have a better chance at starting their own company than finding a decent management position. Senior officers get jobs with defense contractors or TV News.
Sad but true.
At least they'll hire some ex military. Back in my day a military background equated to a career as a drug crazed killer psychopath as far as many companies were concerned.
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