02-28-2010, 00:56
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SF Recruiter
I'm looking to get in contact with a SF recruiter that I will be able to work with to enlist with a 18x contract. I've logged onto goarmy.com and filled in the information and requested a recruiter contact me. I've also left a message with the local recruiting office and I have still not recieved a phone call after 4 days. I am currently AD Navy and will be looking to do a Blue to Green package to convert over.
I am still a little ways out from my EAOS before I will be able to convert however I have a long deployment coming up and I want to start getting things lined up prior to deploying. Upon returning from deployment I will be within the 6 month window to switch over.
I've read in the book "Get Selected" that people are sometimes able to get mentors for this program. Is it possible for me to find one that is willing to mentor me? If so how do I contact someone that would be willing? I appreciate the help and looking forward to getting the ball rolling on my future.
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02-28-2010, 07:42
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During normal EST duty hours, try contacting the SF Recruiter at Fort Bragg at (910) 432-1818 or the SORB at (910) 432-9739.
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02-28-2010, 14:32
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thank I will try contacting them this week and I will continue to try and contact the local recruiter.
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02-28-2010, 15:17
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Originally Posted by waterlogged
I'm looking to get in contact with a SF recruiter that I will be able to work with to enlist with a 18x contract. I've logged onto goarmy.com and filled in the information and requested a recruiter contact me. I've also left a message with the local recruiting office and I have still not recieved a phone call after 4 days. I am currently AD Navy and will be looking to do a Blue to Green package to convert over.
I am still a little ways out from my EAOS before I will be able to convert however I have a long deployment coming up and I want to start getting things lined up prior to deploying. Upon returning from deployment I will be within the 6 month window to switch over.
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Waterlogged:
When I got out 08/08, you could not go blue to green 18x. I had to wait till my EAOS and enlist in the Army under an 18x contract. Things may have changed but I doubt it. I saved up my leave got out with 83 days terminal leave, spent some time getting into better shape and enlisted when I felt I was ready. I would advise you to do the same. When out processing I would make sure all your paper work is in order so your transition is smooth. Make sure your asvab is good to go, the Army GT score is different then the score you may have needed for your rate. If it's low you will have to take the asvab class to retake the asvab. If you don't retake the asvab before you get out and your score is low you won't be able to get a 18x contract. You can't retake the asvab in the Army just to score higher if you already qualify for enlistment. Hope this helps any other questions shoot me a PM.
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02-28-2010, 15:25
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Yes my asvab is currently low the GT score I need is 110 and I have a 101. For the CO score you need a 100 and I have a 107. I've taken the DLAB test in 09 but scored low so I may have to retake that as well. My COC said they have no problem allowing me the time to take the asvab class. According to the Navy Times that have come out in recent months it shows in there that you can do a Blue to Green 18x. Unless some of that is not 100% accurate I don't know. That is all reasons I want to start talking with a recruiter that will actually be doing my paperwork etc to enlist so I can be sure that all of my stuff is in order and try to make the transition smooth. I have to be sure that when I do this I switch right over with out any gamble on getting out and waiting around to enlist. I have a family with a few kids so I'm dependent on the pay check.
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02-28-2010, 15:47
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Originally Posted by waterlogged
Yes my asvab is currently low the GT score I need is 110 and I have a 101. For the CO score you need a 100 and I have a 107. I've taken the DLAB test in 09 but scored low so I may have to retake that as well. My COC said they have no problem allowing me the time to take the asvab class. According to the Navy Times that have come out in recent months it shows in there that you can do a Blue to Green 18x. Unless some of that is not 100% accurate I don't know. That is all reasons I want to start talking with a recruiter that will actually be doing my paperwork etc to enlist so I can be sure that all of my stuff is in order and try to make the transition smooth. I have to be sure that when I do this I switch right over with out any gamble on getting out and waiting around to enlist. I have a family with a few kids so I'm dependent on the pay check.
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Waterlogged:
The wait time on 18x is getting long. I wanted to leave asap, but had to wait 6 months to ship. Over on future soldiers center we are getting guys shipping in July. But more power to you if you can do the blue to green. Even if you cant , how bad do you want it? There is no minimum on the DLAB so you should be fine with your previous score. Sounds like all you need is to retake the asvab. Have you spoken to you command career counselor? They are the one's who will start your paper work for the blue to green transfer.
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02-28-2010, 16:05
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Well I'm gonna try and get contact with someone and find out about these wait times etc. The Dec 09 issue of the Navy Times has the most recent article on Blue to Green and 18x is the top most critical job they are looking to fill. If in fact I cannont get that contract then I will have to see what other options they are offering and maybe I can apply once I'm in. I would perfer not to do that mainly because at the time of my EAOS I will have 10 years of service in and I don't want TIS to become a issue.
I spent the better part of 7 years in the Navy trying to get to specwar and once I got there 3 weeks into training it didn't work out, long story. Anyways I don't want to transition and have to wait years to get a opportunity to try. I would like to have it in a contract. I'll keep you guys posted as I learn more and I get to speak to someone.
Also I believe my DLAB score was either a 45 or a 65 and I'm not sure if it is even in my electronic record or not. I'll have to try and find out. We took the test during indoc of training and I called and got my score from the person who conducted the test a few months later after I had already left from training.
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02-28-2010, 16:22
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Originally Posted by waterlogged
Yes my asvab is currently low the GT score I need is 110 and I have a 101. For the CO score you need a 100 and I have a 107. I've taken the DLAB test in 09 but scored low so I may have to retake that as well. My COC said they have no problem allowing me the time to take the asvab class. According to the Navy Times that have come out in recent months it shows in there that you can do a Blue to Green 18x. Unless some of that is not 100% accurate I don't know. That is all reasons I want to start talking with a recruiter that will actually be doing my paperwork etc to enlist so I can be sure that all of my stuff is in order and try to make the transition smooth. I have to be sure that when I do this I switch right over with out any gamble on getting out and waiting around to enlist. I have a family with a few kids so I'm dependent on the pay check.
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These are not good indicators.
Waivers may be hard to come by right now.
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02-28-2010, 16:26
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...I spent the better part of 7 years in the Navy trying to get to specwar and once I got there 3 weeks into training it didn't work out, long story...
...Also I believe my DLAB score was either a 45 or a 65...
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3 whole weeks huh... Why didnt thinks work out for you at BUDs?
What leads you to believe SF will be a better fit for you or that you will be able to make it here?
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02-28-2010, 18:49
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I wasn't going through BUDs I did SWCC. I had stress fractures on my right foot. I could have just pushed through but I was very disappointed with the level of professionalism that was displayed from my instructors etc. Also when there was discussion of the type of missions etc that the instructors had actually done I was very disappointed. If I could go back and do over again then I would have submitted for BUDs instead of SWCC, but that’s in the past now.
I had never known about 18x or being able to try out for SF until after I had left training. A fellow classmate new about it and had told me about the program. So I started doing research on the job and the selection process. I believe the mission of SF suits me better than the other programs. I enjoyed my time in the field when I was stationed with the Seabees and I did well with land nav. Never to the extent of what they do in selection. I believe with my past experiences and with my drive I would make a great candidate for SF.
As far as meeting the requirements for SF that’s no problem I have plenty of time to work those issues which is why like I explained earlier I want to start talking with a recruiter to make sure that all my ducks are in a row etc. I do appreciate the help/advice that you guys have given me and what I've read from others. Thank you for taking that time.
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02-28-2010, 19:08
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I wasn't going through BUDs I did SWCC. I had stress fractures on my right foot. I could have just pushed through but I was very disappointed with the level of professionalism that was displayed from my instructors etc. Also when there was discussion of the type of missions etc that the instructors had actually done I was very disappointed. If I could go back and do over again then I would have submitted for BUDs instead of SWCC, but that’s in the past now.
I had never known about 18x or being able to try out for SF until after I had left training. A fellow classmate new about it and had told me about the program. So I started doing research on the job and the selection process. I believe the mission of SF suits me better than the other programs. I enjoyed my time in the field when I was stationed with the Seabees and I did well with land nav. Never to the extent of what they do in selection. I believe with my past experiences and with my drive I would make a great candidate for SF.
As far as meeting the requirements for SF that’s no problem I have plenty of time to work those issues which is why like I explained earlier I want to start talking with a recruiter to make sure that all my ducks are in a row etc. I do appreciate the help/advice that you guys have given me and what I've read from others. Thank you for taking that time.
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While I appreciate your enthusiasm, Waterlogged, the above highlighted, underlined, and colored statements concern me. As I read the first two, you took words uttered by and actions of your instructors, coupled that with an injury that you "could have pushed through" and used that to justify quitting. This occurred AFTER you had volunteered and started a course of training that YOU chose. I assure you, in SF training you will encounter many reasons to quit, and may statements from instructors that may encourage you to do so.
While your drive may be admirable - lots of people have "drive"! To me, your "experience" shows as a negative, not as a positive. IF you have matured and grown from this experience (which your post does not show - you blame OTHERS' actions, not your own), you may have a chance in SF. I hope that is the case, but your words do NOT show it, imho.
Good luck...
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02-28-2010, 19:29
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While I appreciate your enthusiasm, Waterlogged, the above highlighted, underlined, and colored statements concern me. As I read the first two, you took words uttered by and actions of your instructors, coupled that with an injury that you "could have pushed through" and used that to justify quitting. This occurred AFTER you had volunteered and started a course of training that YOU chose. I assure you, in SF training you will encounter many reasons to quit, and may statements from instructors that may encourage you to do so.
While your drive may be admirable - lots of people have "drive"! To me, your "experience" shows as a negative, not as a positive. IF you have matured and grown from this experience (which your post does not show - you blame OTHERS' actions, not your own), you may have a chance in SF. I hope that is the case, but your words do NOT show it, imho.
Good luck...
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Sir,
The program wasn't what I thought it would be when I chose to do it. I wanted more than just riding around in a rib and conducting vbss missions. I want to be on the ground in country conducting missions. I am a team player a displayed that greatly during that training and during my 8 years in the Navy. I've gone through lots of other training and schools etc besides that one. I've done a tour in country on a tactical movement team.
My experience at SWCC may not be positive but I do believe the rest of my time in the Navy is a positive experience and I did learn a lot of things from SWCC. It taught me a great deal about my body and what it is I need to do to prepare myself both physically and mentally for my next challenge. I did prepare for SWCC a great deal I believe the 2 places I messed up on was 1. The research about the job and mission of SWCC. 2. I didn't do long runs back to back to prepare my body and feet for the distance that we would run daily.
I am looking to make a long career out of the military not just 20. I want to be in a position and a job that I will love to do that will enable me to make rank and be able to go past 20 years and possible do 30. At the time of my EAOS I will have 10 years of service and I’m currently 26. I am still very young and eager to make a long term commitment to the teams and do my best.
I hope this better explains my past.
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03-01-2010, 09:36
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From the Navy SWCC site:
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You will be stressed to your limits and beyond.
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Believe me, SF training will do the same, and then some. You have a long hill to climb. I wish you good luck.
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03-01-2010, 10:52
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Sounds like an argument for that paper trident program over in NSWC I've been hearing so much about.
And so it goes...
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03-02-2010, 23:57
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If you decide to do SF, you will like it much better than NSW. Just don't quit this time...
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